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~~pharmacists solely being distributors of pre-ordained medication has no detrimental effects on humans. ๐Ÿซ  the US is great to its people, and has very good healthcare practices!!~~ (livestream is on the 27th and i am excite, but not involved at all)

https://fahrplan.events.ccc.de/congress/2024/fahrplan/talk/ASBXWW/

stream link for those interested:

https://streaming.media.ccc.de/38c3

EDIT: my lack of capitalization and poor word choice has confused people. this event is about making legal, tested for efficacy medication only. pharmacists are good. doctors are good. the cost of medication and other hurdles that prevent people from having access to medication are not.

EDIT 2: i looked into the 4 Theives Vinegar Collective (breifly, just on wikipedia) and i did not realize that they made the EpiPencil, which is an open-source device that injects a mesured dose of epinephrine (a medication that can be bought from a trusted and legal distributor). that's awesome stuff, but it's less awesome that they now want to share chemistry knowlege that they don't necissarily have a full understanding of, and push automated synthesis for people who also don't have the foundational knowledge to ensure safety. not really great. i guess that's what happens when healthcare is entirely for-profit, and inaccessable to so many people.

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[โ€“] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago (26 children)

I think you're posting in the wrong neighborhood, RFK Jr.

[โ€“] herinaceus@sh.itjust.works -5 points 2 days ago (13 children)

pharmacists are trained extensively about every class of FDA approved medicine, but doctors (primarily PCPs) are given insanely huge caseloads of "Becky-Sue needs antibiotics" type cases. i think you misunderstood what the talk/stream is about tbh.

manufacturing meds that are known to help and tested as such isn't exactly new, groundbreaking stuff. i don't think these guys are going to be pushing for scam-of-the-week alternative medicine lol

[โ€“] Canonical_Warlock@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What you posted in the OP definitely needs to be phrased better then. Because it looks like something an antivaxer or an MMS nutter would post. "Big government wants to make all our healthcare decisions for us and we needs to rebel" is basically the antivaxer mantra. It should at least somewhere mention that its about manufacturing your own pharmaceuticals.

Also manufacturing your own medications is not illegal at all as long as they aren't controlled substances. You can make and swallow basically anything you want and the government won't stop you.

Additionally antibiotics probably aren't the best example to use for something people can do on their own because misuse of antibiotics tends to result in things like antibiotic resistant infections which can then spread and cause harm to the community.

i can edit the OP. i think i over-estimated how many people would read the text from the link.

i don't hang around anti-vaccer type spaces or people, and i hope you can avoid them too, since getting sick isn't fun.

antibiotic misuse seems more likely to me when people "ration" them, because of the difficulty obtaining them. i do see where you're coming from though, since misuse (generally early discontinuation) can cause problems.

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