Privacy

31814 readers

247 users here now

A place to discuss privacy and freedom in the digital world.

Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.

In this community everyone is welcome to post links and discuss topics related to privacy.

Some Rules

Posting a link to a website containing tracking isn't great, if contents of the website are behind a paywall maybe copy them into the post
Don't promote proprietary software
Try to keep things on topic
If you have a question, please try searching for previous discussions, maybe it has already been answered
Reposts are fine, but should have at least a couple of weeks in between so that the post can reach a new audience
Be nice :)

Related communities

Chat rooms

[Matrix/Element]Dead
Discord

much thanks to @gary_host_laptop for the logo design :)

founded 5 years ago

MODERATORS

Simplex Chat Introduces Live Messages, That Update As You Type (simplex.chat)

submitted 2 years ago by SoftwareSavior@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

13 comments fedilink hide all child comments

New in v4.4 (Testflight Beta):

disappearing messages (with mutual agreement)!
live messages – they update for all recipients as you type them.
connection security code verification, for contacts and group members – protect from MITM attacks.
send animated images and "stickers" (e.g., from GIF and PNG files and 3rd party keyboards)

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

my feeling is that it is reasonable to have the sender of the message set the terms here

This is fundamentally impossible thanks to the analog loophole. The receiver can always copy down the message to a notepad, or just remember it. Exposing this mutual agreement is staying honest and make sure that it is understood by everyone involved.

It is important to remember that disappearing messages (in any application) are only helpful for people who you trust currently. (And until the messages are deleted.)

[–] rysiek@szmer.info 1 points 2 years ago

It is important to remember that disappearing messages (in any application) are only helpful for people who you trust currently. (And until the messages are deleted.)

Sure, no question about it. Still, how the feature is designed matters, and I feel a design requiring both parties to consent to disappearing messages before they are enabled is bad design in this case.

One of the reasons why is: you might want to send some sensitive messages to someone while they are away/offline/unavailable. Being able to enable disappearing messages and then send what you need to send is quite important.

[–] ralf_muschall@feddit.de 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There is another use case for disappearing messages: protection against domestic violence. If the violent partner checks the victim's device, seeing messages might incite an attack.

[–] kevincox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

This is the same. You trust the recipient but don't wan the messages to be stored for a long time.