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[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world -1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That's an awful lot of words to say absolutely nothing. What's your suggested alternative that will get the 70+ million votes you need to stand a chance at the presidential level? Because encouraging people not to vote obviously didn't work it this time. Unless a Trump win was your goal all along.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Only if your goal is to (as Blue Maga does) continue to ignore the functional reason why Democrats lost this election.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Why are you focusing on the presidency? Oust the dems in Congress in even a few blue states and you'll be able to do a lot. Hell, start local and gain legitimacy before going after federal office. There a lot of options other than voting democrats for everything all the time.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Because other than the libertarians in Grafton, they aren't trying to build up any kind of legitimacy. The greens show up every four years as a spoiler but don't do anything in the off years. Their list iof elected officials has ~150 people nation wide and half of those are things like "parks committee member". If they were actually building legitimacy from the ground up like you suggest there would be far less criticism.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a problem with the greens, but it doesn't mean the only option is to vote Democrat. If you don't like the existent third parties, the answer should be to make or participate or one, not keep doing the same thing and hope the corporate stooges don't drive the country into the ground.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

It's a problem for the greens who are a distant fourth place in numbers behind the libertarians who are trying to go the wrong direction. I'm not sure further splintering of third parties is going to help anything.

The far right has spent several decades dragging the Republican party to the right. Progressives can do the same to the Democrats if they actually show up.