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As a starting point, the burning of fossil fuels, and to a lesser extent deforestation and release of methane are responsible for the warming in recent decades: Graph of temperature as observed with significant warming, and simulated without added greenhouse gases and other anthropogentic changes, which shows no significant warming

How much each change to the atmosphere has warmed the world: IPCC AR6 Figure 2 - Thee bar charts: first chart: how much each gas has warmed the world.  About 1C of total warming.  Second chart:  about 1.5C of total warming from well-mixed greenhouse gases, offset by 0.4C of cooling from aerosols and negligible influence from changes to solar output, volcanoes, and internal variability.  Third chart: about 1.25C of warming from CO2, 0.5C from methane, and a bunch more in small quantities from other gases.  About 0.5C of cooling with large error bars from SO2.

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[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I wish cloned meat was a viable thing. No animal suffering, far less pollution, sticking it to the vegan.

[–] Jtotheb@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

~~• save the planet~~

~~• save the animals~~

• stick it to the people who thought of all that first

[–] Feyd@programming.dev 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 2 weeks ago

But they hurt my fee fees with their mean words!

[–] Sunshine@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

There are great alternatives today like impossible, beyond and tofurky. There’s no need to wait for lab grown meat. That’s like saying sticking it to the abolitionists and feminists. It’s silly to want to stick it to the most moral people in the world.

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 2 points 2 weeks ago

No idea what that is about, maybe because I do want to eat meat, without the moral implications.

Anyway, I doubt I can get away with it in this conservative shithole country. If I didn't live with my parents, I would have cut meat quite a lot. I actually prefer salads and such.

[–] UmeU@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I don’t care what anyone says, take some dry aged ribeye cooked to perfection, or some smoked ribs falling off the bone and compare that to some frozen tofurky log and tell me with a straight face that that’s an alternative. Forget about ballpark, gardein and beyond aren’t even playing the same sport when it comes to something like a smoked turkey leg.

Veganism is admirable. Animal welfare, carbon emissions, nutrition, these are all good reasons to stop eating meat altogether. But let’s not delude ourselves here, meat can be just about the most delicious food in existence. I have tried tons of fake meat products and they all taste like sodium cardboard nuggets.

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

abolitionists and feminists fight for human dignity. comparing them to animals undermines human dignity

[–] araneae@beehaw.org 3 points 2 weeks ago

Why would this be sticking it to a vegan if you are eating a cloned organism with no experience of life? Its not a zero sum game, you can both have some (vegan) pie.