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I know the topic of whether adblock is piracy is debated, but I am guessing there are a lot of adblock users here and I was wondering if anyone has seen the youtube adblock warning message in the wild. I use ublock origin and still haven't seen it once.

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[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My guy you're posting on a piracy community.

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Yeha and pirates say that content should be free and accessible, and that's why piracy is ethical. YouTube is providing a way to keep content available for everyone while keeping a business running for millions of people around the globe.

Just look at all the posts in this community saying that piracy is THE ethical way.

So, they fucking hate it when content is paywalled and say that this is awful because content should be free for poor people. But they also hate it when content is free and they have to watch ads. They just hate every sustainable business model. Wtf.

This is just communism in disguise. They want private effort for free and hassle free anytime, anywhere. Probably looking at it on their Iphones or Samsung phones. Thst they were able to purchase because they were paid for their work.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

gestures around I'm not sure if you know this, but you're on Lemmy, not Reddit or Gab.

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Are you implying I'm far right? If so, you're so wrong. I'm not far left either.

They are literally giving them the content for free. FOR FREE!

But no... "watching ads!?? For a 4K stream with machine learning generated captions for accessibility, multi-language subtitles, minimal buffer time and worldwide low latency? Are they INSANE! They are exploiting us! We are the victims of a corporation! Everything should be totally free and ad-free for us to enjoy anytime from our Iphones. Also, don't forget to give me my paycheck in time because I'm also anti-work and it is abusive if I don't get paid a fair wage for my effort, you cheap corporate pig".

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, I'm just pointing out the community you're talking about. This is a piracy community, on Lemmy. If you're surprised that this specific community is hostile to your arguments, I'm not sure what you were expecting.

Addressing the main point of your argument, the idea of the FOSS movement which many people in this community espouse is to have effectively a volunteer and donation-based society, just like Lemmy and the rest of the Fediverse. Peertube comes to mind as a specific example. For a significant portion of that population, communism and socialism are also not considered bad things. For others, the crux of their complaint is not against the monetization of content, but the degree to which said monetization interrupts their viewing experience - 30 second ads on a 10 second video, for instance, or multiple 10 second ads interspersed at 30 second intervals throughout a 2 minute video, with the lion's share of the revenue going to YouTube and not directly to the creators - hence the creation of platforms such as Bitchute, Nebula and CuriosityStream.

And what specifically is wrong with being paid a fair wage on time for work and effort matching the job description exactly?

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Then why aren't they using these alternatives? Why does every company and place need to follow their ideals?

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

As the social media juggernauts, these companies are viewed as the embodiment of everything they see as wrong with a capitalist/corporatist society, and in their mind, by dismantling or fundamentally changing and challenging these juggernauts, they can inspire and bring about the change they want in society as a whole.

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So they are against it by using it? What?

I also think these corporations are evil, but complaining about everything they do just because it is an inconvenience for them? They should complain and act on the shit that matters.

[–] wanderingmagus@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Against it by "using" it in a manner which deprived the company of revenue - such as watching videos with an adblocker.

This, in their mind, counts as "shit that matters".

[–] nikscha@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

Your definition of communism is flawed, but I actually agree with the rest of what you're saying. Content creators are what makes yt worthwhile, and them earning money through ads is perfectly reasonable.

YouTube has some shady practices like showing ads on videos of creators that don't have a contract with them, meaning YouTube makes money from those creators without the creators receiving anything in return. But for the most part I think that ads on YouTube are fine.

[–] sangle_of_flame@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

communism is when...

people use adblockers, apparently

[–] pazukaza@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When they think it is morally correct, yeha. When they think piracy is morally correct and ethical, they are basically disregarding private property and private incentive. They think it is their right to have free access to information that others worked to create.

I wouldn't have a problem if they accepted they are basically stealing, at least I'd respect that, but they won't. They think piracy is freeing society from capitalism. If you don't believe me, keep reading the posts in this community.