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It appears that in every thread about this event there is someone calling everyone else in the thread sick and twisted for not proclaiming that all lives are sacred and being for the death of one individual.

It really is a real life trolley problem because those individuals are not seeing the deaths caused by the insurance industry and not realizing that sitting back and doing nothing (i.e. not pulling the lever on the train track switch) doesn't save lives...people are going to continue to die if nothing is done.

Taking a moral high ground and stating that all lives matter is still going to costs lives and instead of it being a few CEOs it will be thousands.

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[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

... do you think killing a few CEOs is going to stop the shitty healthcare system we have? It's nowhere near that easy to fix this broken system. There are thousands of MBAs just waiting in the wings to take over and do the exact same things.

It's not a solution, it's a reaction, and it doesn't fix shit. Just escalates an already volatile situation.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

France survived the Reign of Terror.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 4 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

People survive lots of heinous shit, that doesn't mean it helps.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 6 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Modern France is better than monarchist France.

[–] Zorque@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Mostly due to the efforts of a lot of people working to make things better through political and social action.

But hey, they had that one time where they killed a bunch of people, that must have been the reason their lives are so much better. Clearly

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 2 points 3 weeks ago

Non violent action has never brought power to the table without a separate violent movement adding pressure. Not even Gandhi or Dr. Martin Luther King.

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Built on the blood of the Terrors, executing many innocent people, including the man who was against the executions in the first place, Robespierre

[–] Nougat@fedia.io -1 points 3 weeks ago

"Against" > "For"

[–] oce@jlai.lu 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

It only took a couple more civil wars, thousands of political arbitrary executions, 2 empiralist dictatorships and 2 monarchies to get a stable democracy about a century later.

[–] nokturne213@sopuli.xyz 3 points 3 weeks ago

Time to get started then.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 1 points 3 weeks ago

Yup. Better take the long view.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Semi-stable based on recent events.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Unstable government but still functioning as intended, no one has a clear majority in the parlement so a government who doesn't talk to everyone is going to get trashed and that's what happened. This was very democratic.

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The US doesn't have a parliament. Neither party talks to everyone. There are women and ethnic minorities in Congress, which is definitely not what was originally intended.

[–] oce@jlai.lu 1 points 3 weeks ago

This thread is about France, so I was talking about the current French situation.

[–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

do you think killing a few CEOs is going to stop the shitty healthcare system we have?

Even if it doesn't, what is there to lose?

[–] BearOfaTime@lemm.ee -1 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

Your humanity.

You know, the thing you're claiming the CEO doesn't have

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 weeks ago

👏

10/10 retort, well played

[–] xtr0n@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 weeks ago

Is it really more human to quietly accept a society where there are frequent go fund me’s for kids with cancer?