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[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

this was the most half-assed coup in recent memory, hands down

  • hey army do a coup for me

  • parliament said no

  • ok

no fanatical loyalists in army, no militia or PMC, zero planning at all, even Prigozhin got that sorted out. very similar thing happened just two years ago in Peru, and this year in Bolivia. and same thing will happen this time, impeachment is already written as we speak. army also exactly knew what was going on and didn't participate for a reason

by the way, south korean presidents don't have a habit of leaving office peacefully, so it all tracks. it's either impeachment or coup or long prison term just after leaving office

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 9 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Wonder if he did the rightwing thing and just went 'the silent majority agrees with my statements'(*) and just assumed the militaries would be all part of the incel crew and fall in line behind him.

*: On that note there was some cringe thanksgiving video of one of those weird Trump aligned culture war freaks (the daily wire perhaps?) where the freak strides into the thanksgiving event and starts slapping everybody around as some sort of victorious conquerer (at least that is what I imagined was the intended feeling. Not the deranged crazy weirdo vibe it gave off). And this video had a scene which baffled some people, there was a normal guy who was given a big cigar or something and some people were confused why that was a thing. I think that was the imagined '"normal" silent majority guys all secretly agree with me but they are ashamed to act' thing.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

I really don't know what was he thinking, looks like army did the bare legal minimum so that they won't be prosecuted for refusing orders. There's a couple of things that can be done with minimal number of loyalists that would make coup easier that weren't done, like cutting power to parliament. This makes me guess that military didn't want a part in this at all

I've seen a take that this was an attempt to get entrenched in power before trump admin begins, as in for foreign relations purposes, but like, it's pretty clear that a couple of people from his family and trusted party people were under investigation so him trying to not allow that sounds more likely. Now that won't work because as far as i understand by the end of the week there will be impeachment vote

[–] YourNetworkIsHaunted@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I've seen people in the gun nuttier circles saying that the weapons the army had were configured for training rounds, sort of like airsoft rather than live ammo. It sounds like they were thoroughly uninterested in going along with this and were trying to avoid adding a mutiny to the situation? And yes, SK apparently has an explicit law that allows the legislation to overrule a declaration of martial law, which is the kind of law you don't get unless you've had several occasions to think about it.

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

i haven't seen it but i've seen it mentioned too. these are training rifles that use ammunition incompatible with normal 5.56 (simunition), they also had no ammo in sidearms and someone spotted blue (training) magazine. This is not something you can do on accident, they must have been specifically ordered so

Such law makes sense considering SK recent-ish history

from what i understand there was only one small unit slightly loyal to president, that one that was sent (+ MP, + regular police), and even they called quits pretty much immediately (and lost NVG, that's a beating). looks like they did bare minimum so that they can't be prosecuted and left just after the vote. defense minister was already dismissed so in retrospect they could slack even harder. 707th (that unit) blocked representatives but police let them in

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Didn't they at least try to block parliament with buses or something? (A thing easily circumvented with the parliamentarians going 'whereever enough of us gather is parliament, the building has no magical qualities'

[–] skillissuer@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

idk what exactly they did but they did get inside anyway

[–] ShakingMyHead@awful.systems 8 points 3 weeks ago

The entrances were blocked so the members of parliament climbed the fence.

[–] Soyweiser@awful.systems 8 points 3 weeks ago

Well humans are a liquid, we get into everything.