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[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Lol, this thread is a train wreck and is the perfect example of why Republicans keep winning elections despite being on the wrong side of history and having policies that hurt the American population at large.

The left will never win as long as we form circular firing squads and argue over petty bullshit.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago (1 children)

firing squads

You need guns for that.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 8 points 2 days ago (2 children)

why do you think the guns are pointed in a circle

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Triangles are too pointy

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Because the whole “I need a gun now” reaction is just people trying to assuage the fear and uncertainty of the future. While there will continue to be random violence against minorities and lgtbq, the predominant way they will be hurt going forward is via policy. Policy that marginalizes them. Arming up because you think right wing mobs are going to enact a pogrom against you is no different than right wing nuts arming up because they think a caravan of criminal mexicans is heading toward the border. Don’t fall into the trap of thinking you are “in control” because you took a shooting class and bought a pistol. When we are afraid we naturally want to “do something” about it. But as soon as you reach for a weapon you’ve lost.

[–] sue_me_please@awful.systems 2 points 2 days ago

Easy to say when you aren't facing the threat of bias intimidation or hate crime by recently emboldened bigots, things that actually happen unlike the caravan paranoia.

[–] orcrist@lemm.ee 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I like how your comment is the perfect example of the behavior that you claim to oppose. You're cutting into the left while identifying yourself as left, and everything you wrote was destructive. Congratulations?

There are several reasonable positions that a person could take on this issue. You could point out the entertainment in increased calls for gun regulation. You could point out the consistency with saying that you're going to arm yourself as long as guns are legal, but also be in favor of increased gun regulation. You could point out that there are different factions within the Democratic party and on the left in general, and how people all have their own varying agendas. You could encourage a general strategy for Democrats and Democrat supporters to get along. But you did none of that, because you didn't care. And I don't mind if you care, but I want other people to see it, just in case they do.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The dude is trying to give some necessary criticism, but apparently everyone is immune to that.

Criticism is not destruction, unless you are okay with the current status quo

Criticism should be constructive, they offered nothing constructive in their criticism.

[–] Denidil@lemm.ee 4 points 2 days ago

Or you could understand that "gun ownership" and "gun regulation" are not incompatible concepts, despite NRA/Russian propaganda to the contrary.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I also noticed the destructiveness, thanks for pointing all this out!

[–] Dead_or_Alive@lemmy.world -5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Keep forming that circular firing squad.

I’m going to slip out and duck down over here to eat some popcorn.

[–] Shardikprime@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Nah man, people in here are not open to criticism unless it's "the way they like it" which is none criticism at all.

Just blame the Latino voters and move on

[–] projectsquared@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

So very much this.