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[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 39 points 1 month ago (4 children)

It was also opposed by George Washington on the argument that "A bunch of farmers with guns will never defeat a trained army." He basically did exactly that, but it took the support of one of the world's largest super powers at the time in order to do it - France.

Not to say don't arm yourself. I plan on doing exactly that myself. But don't expect to be overthrowing the dictatorship to come. There are no resistance groups being armed by the EU here.

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Washington was talking about the militias that were present in the early parts of the war that were under trained and undisciplined. The red coats took them easily and they fled often so the continental congress started the continental army lead by Washington, which was a trained and disciplined army in the style of European standing armies, which was able to take on and even defeat the British occasionally.

After the war the ruling elite still had this idealized vision of citizen militias protecting the liberty of white man and saw it as a less tyrannical, and cheaper model then the European professional standing army and made the second amendment to encourage it. Washington was saying that that system failed and will never work and that we should have a trained army ready to take on European powers if they come back.

Now we have the worst of both worlds, a massive army that gobbles up tax dollars and a bunch of untrained citizens with guns who barely understand what a militia is much less can protect the liberty of the nation.

[–] EldritchFeminity@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, pretty much what I was getting at. We live in a country where everybody believes themselves to be the hero in their own Rambo style action movie.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

"Just another American who saw too many movies as a child? Another orphan of a bankrupt culture who thinks he's John Wayne? Rambo? Marshal Dillon?"

Edit: I can't be the only person who's seen Die Hard.

You mean the best Christmas movie?

[–] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are no resistance groups being armed by the EU here.

Not yet.

[–] veganpizza69@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'd like it if indigenous Amazonians had better tools than bows to defend against loggers, ranchers, miners and various land grabbers. And a few SAMs to take care of those chemical airborne attacks.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago

Getting another superpower to arm Americans is like putting a hat on a hat

[–] 5in1k@lemm.ee 6 points 1 month ago

I’m going to make myself harder to black bag.