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Here you go, a "real" source. He said there were more bullet ballots than there likely really are, but there's still a really suspiciously high number of them. How is this not at least worth investigating?

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[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

All good points here, but the clarification that Snopes and everyone else is missing and not talking about are kind of important:

  • "Bullet Ballots" are single votes for one candidate with nothing else filled out. In order to be valid that means...
  • A voters information would have to be put on a form and fed into a tabular, and in the case of Georgia and Arizona (I think?) physically reviewed before fed into said machine because...
  • The tabulation machines are set to confirm a specific amount of information, and if that information is wrong, it will error. This is a code on the form that can be machine scanned, so that makes sure it fits a specific location, precinct, county, whathaveyou., BECAUSE...
  • if someone were to get a grip of these forms and ballot stuff them, then counts would be meaningless.

So really all that needs to be done is to find a large enough sample of size of consistent voters who had a flipped vote, find their forms, ensure nothing is fucky with the forms, then interview to confirm with the voter. Do that for a few thousand people in Wherever, USA and you'll have your answer.

It's not hard, it's just time consuming and costs money. Voters don't generally have a way to even check their vote was counted for all the candidates they chose in most states, which I think is fucked up, otherwise this might be a bit easier.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ballots are anonymous, there isn't identifying information on the part put in a tabulator.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, what did you read about my post that said that was the case?

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The point is you are wrong. The ballot itself is anonymous.

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 7 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

find a large enough sample of size of consistent voters who had a flipped vote

Is that possible in AZ? In my state the poll worker records that you appeared to vote, then gives you a generic ballot. The ballot is not tied to you. Your vote is completely secret with no way to trace it.

[–] just_another_person@lemmy.world -3 points 1 month ago

Some states it is not, as I mentioned.