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What vendors make good dumb TVs or big monitors? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 9 hours ago by Nicro@discuss.tchncs.de to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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The EMMC on my PC-TV finally broke down and I'd like to replace it with something that doesn't run an OS or will predictably fail with a countdown. But dumb TVs are hard to come by and monitors come at a premium at that size. I want to run a PC (DP/HDMI) and an SBC (HDMI) with it. I also have an S2 satellite cable, but that's secondary. I'd like to have ~43", 16:9, 4K but without an embedded smart-hub, ideally running of eeprom-firmware, or just anything independent of write-cycles. But I can't find any good options online. Are there companies for this. Comments and recommendations welcome.

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[–] Fusty@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

There is no meaningful data for the OS to capture if it used as a display for externally connected devices.

The only way to have 100% privacy on all devices is not have internet service.

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Many tvs have microphones built into them or their remotes.

Some are even sending screenshots of what they are displaying to their backend servers.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2449198-smart-tvs-take-snapshots-of-what-you-watch-multiple-times-per-second/

[+] Fusty@lemmy.ml -6 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I guess that you cannot read well so I will say it plainly, when a TV has no access to the outside internet over the lifespan of the TV, zero information or files will ever be uploaded and will stay on TV with no external copy existing anymore.

[–] otter@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Also, those devices are always capturing data. So if/when they ever connect, that data will get uploaded.

This seems to be the key bit of the comment.

Outside of the examples listed, a more reasonable possibility is if someone else in your home (ex. A family member) connects it to the network. Also even if it doesn't automatically connect to a public network, well placed popups can also lead to mistakes.

[–] Fusty@lemmy.ml -2 points 5 hours ago

Yoy can dream up every fantasy scenerio you want until you are butt stupid, it does not make it plausible.

[–] fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There is no meaningful data for the OS to capture if it used as a display for externally connected devices.

Except that some of these devices are periodically "screenshotting" the screen and harvesting data from that.

Pair that with automatically connecting to open wifi networks and nothing is truly safe.