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The measure received 14 votes in favour, with the US the sole member to reject it. However, because the US is a permanent member of the council, it has the ability to veto any resolution brought forward

Unlike several previous resolutions regarding a ceasefire in Gaza, Wednesday's measure was brought forward by all 10 elected members of the Security Council.

The US has vetoed four previous attempts at calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, on most occasions being the lone vote against the measures.

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[–] Saleh@feddit.org 24 points 4 days ago (2 children)

As long as you keep voting limb cutters, they have no motivation to stop cutting limbs. Not voting for limb cutters is the only way to make non limb cutting get on the ballot

[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee -5 points 4 days ago (2 children)

"Two limbs is just as bad as 4 limbs, so I choose 4 limbs!"

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 17 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You do realize that there is more than one election? Like every four years there is an election. Treating every election like it is the only one and never looking past the immediate effects for the next year is what brought this mess in the first place.

This is also why this comparison is bad. You can not only loose at this election, but the next one and the one after that amd the one after that. In fact one could argue Americans have been loosong every election to the neoliberals since a few decades. And why? Because you never made a point of getting one party to stop being neoliberals.

[–] rknx@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago (1 children)

This election made me realize that political affiliation in the states for a lot of people is like being in a cult. Rather than accepting that your side has issues and needs a change, people just try to justify it by pointing how bad the other side can be worse. Like 90% of lemmy democrats don't get that I'm not motivated to vote for being waist-deep in shit vs chest-deep in shit. Yes, one is worse than another, but I prefer to vote so I don't have to be in shit at all. But all they will say back is hurr durr trump bad.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 8 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I feel like we need to normalize that demanding more from representatives is OK and necessary for a functioning democracy. The party needs to respond to the demands of those they are supposed to represent. This election made it clear that they only care about the demands of the donors and that needs to change

[–] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But given a fundamentally broken system such as FPTP, voting is going to do very little to fix the flaws. There is the winner and everyone else, and that everyone else may be the majority. So fi d a better tool for the job. This one clearly isn't working.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Yeah, FPTP is inherently undemocratic and naturally trends to a two-party system. Especially when both parties operate within neoliberalism, intentionally racheting American politics to the right at the behest of capital interests.

I'm all for approval or STAR voting, but I will support any ranked choice ballot measure as any are better than FPTP. Right now it's only possible to enact new voting systems at a local level

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago

Not for nothing, but where is this two limb option? All I see is four limb options except one is grinning and clapping the other is just wearing a false look of commiseration.