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[–] Grumpy@sh.itjust.works 29 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Wtf pepe is considered alt-right because alt-right uses them sometimes??? I hear they also use English! Maybe English needs to get banned!

[–] TheBat@lemmy.world 14 points 3 hours ago
[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

They didn't just use it sometimes, they were using it as an intentional dog whistle, that is the difference. Part of dog whistling is choosing something that, otherwise, has had no real relationship to the thing it is being used as a dog whistle for.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 hour ago (2 children)

so they can choose anything and we just have to stop using it because its their dogwhistle now?

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

No, but you have to understand that it now comes with the context of being a WP dog whistle. The symbolism of the Nazis weren't anything to their ideology before hand. They had widespread use for thousands of years. Now they, especially the primary one, is all but verboten in the west, and people who use things, like the swastika, as religious symbols, even know to tread with caution using it in the west. White hoods, and robes, have been used in cultural/religious regalia forever. However, you don't use them in the US unless you consider being mistaken for a klan memeber.

Can we reclaim pepe? Probably, it was minor compared to the aforementioned things, and the creator has done a lot to kibosh the commercial use of it from right wing people. However, it was that, and that context doesn't just disappear because you don't like it.

[–] reksas@sopuli.xyz 0 points 34 minutes ago (1 children)

what if they start using this as weapon to deny us things?

[–] Jiggle_Physics@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

I mean, that already happens. This isn't a new problem.

[–] thedirtyknapkin@lemmy.world 0 points 54 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

to me it's kind of kind the nazi bar thing. if you're at a bar with 2 Nazis, and you're not a nazi, you're still hanging out at a nazi bar.

they fucking adore this frog. no other group has embraced it as strongly or consistently. I'm quite happy to let an old ass meme die because i find it distasteful now that it's the favorite meme of nazis.