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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/1874605

A 17-year-old from Nebraska and her mother are facing criminal charges including performing an illegal abortion and concealing a dead body after police obtained the pair’s private chat history from Facebook, court documents published by Motherboard show.

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[–] Yearly1845@reddthat.com 35 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Allowing her to just get an abortion would have avoided this entire situation in the first place.

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think I'm missing something here. She was allowed to just get an abortion, for 20 weeks. This was all before the godawful Roe v Wade repeal.

[–] Whirlybird@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

It was also in a state that didn't change their abortion stance after Roe v Wade was repealed. Nothing was stopping her getting an abortion for the first 20 weeks like you said.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Eh 28 weeks seems kind of late for an abortion though.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's none of your business, though. It's not your body. Besides, Nebraska is basically a third world country when it comes to maternal health care availability, which makes this applicable:

In low-income countries, half of newborns born at or below 32 weeks gestational age die due to a lack of medical access

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Comparing any first world state to third world countries is a hell of a jump.

Generalizing statistics about third world countries to argue they apply to a first world state, no matter how shitty, poor, or ass backwards the state is... that's an even bigger leap.

That statement is applicable to the context it was observed in, low income countries, not backwards ass first world states. Please don't pretend otherwise. Surely you can make your point with statistics actually relevant to the context of Nebraska.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 8 points 1 year ago

The USA has infant mortality rates that would make most the neutral world (ie "third-world countries") consider sending aid.

[–] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When it comes to de facto healthcare availability, especially reproductive healthcare, most red states would compare unfavourably to the majority of African countries.

That's what happens when you have a system based on profits over access for everyone, add an insurance industry whose main focus is to make sure that as little medical treatment as possible occurs and THEN add corrupt politicians whose owner donors think that even THAT is too generous towards the poors and also an invisible section of the bible says that forcing women to give birth to unwanted children while decreasing the number of places to do so safely is holiness itself.

[–] s0q@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

You are right, but you're swimming against the tide here. 28 weeks is a fully formed child that moves and would survive of born at this point. I am all for reproductive rights but going up to 28 weeks is just irresponsible.