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[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Can you also make a graph on how many luxury hotels Trump is going to build in Gaza after the rubble is cleared, thanks 👍

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Do you think I've ever supported Trump or something when I've repeatedly called out his Hitlarian and Fascist rhetoric and policies?

[–] TheOubliette@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

Western liberals live in a fog of thought-terminating clichés that allow them to support The Party regardless of what it does or stands for. One of those ckichés is thst if you disagree with them or don't support their politicians, you are actually a sleeper agent of the "enemy" faction.

Calling you a Trump supporter isn't the only variation on this. They do the same re: "Putler" if you criticize US policy tiwards Ukraine and various racist accusations if you are anything less than a sinophobe.

In fact there are already BlueAnon conspiracy comments in this comment section trying to call pro-Palestinian protesters a Russian op. Normally you'd see this kind of logic on your weird Uncke's facebook page but through liberalism alk things are possible.

[–] icydefiance@lemm.ee 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Yes, because you helped him win.

[–] Keeponstalin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

By voting for Harris? By telling others to also vote for Harris even if anti-genocide is their single issue? By voicing my concern that the campaigns strategy of ignoring all the uncommitted voters in swing states and failing to break from Biden on one of his most unpopular positions was risking losing the election? How exactly did I help Trump win?

[–] icydefiance@lemm.ee 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 19 minutes ago)

By promoting the lies that either Biden or Harris can single handedly stop the genocide, and that they've made no attempt to do so.

If we just ended our alliance with Israel, do you know what they would do next? They would likely ally themselves with Russia instead.

That would give Russia control over a port that facilitates a huge portion of commerce in the middle east. It would also give them control of a lot of tech companies, including Intel's massive R&D campus, and they would have access to the iron dome, which would be a pretty big intelligence leak. Israel also has an extremely important spy network that western countries rely on, and suddenly they would start serving Russia instead.

It would also allow the rest of the middle east to "escape containment", so to speak. Particularly Iran. As soon as that happens, where do you think their missiles will go next?

Oh, and the genocide of Palestinians would still continue.

Geopolitics is complicated, and Biden was walking a tightrope. He was at least placing limits on how US weapons could be used, and trying to negotiate a ceasefire. Trump will scrap all of that and encourage Israel to kill everyone in the region.

But you didn't care about any of that. Your moral outrage prevented you from trying to figure out why things are the way they are, and you joined the choir of people who were trying to prevent anyone from voting for Harris. A choir that mostly consisted of Trump supporters who were just trying to promote anything that might hurt Harris's chances of winning.