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[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Based on the need for ancient history to claim a people, there's no Americans either. Does that mean we give everything back to the indigenous people? I hope so. Also even if they're Arabs as you say, that doesn't mean you can just murder them indiscriminately like this.

[–] kryptonianCodeMonkey@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, an American politician should be wary of making the argument that non-ancient roots in an area make their claim on their land default.

Honestly, I have trouble dealing with the irony that American politicians are pro-zionism becuase Jews used to hold the land a long time ago until they were outcast from their homelands aand forced to move far away, displacing Palestinian people that live tthere now in the process.... and then think that Native American sovereignty (let alone their claim to their historical lands that were stolen from them) are ridiculous and unfair to contemporary US citizens that live here now.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No it's okay we have nukes.

I'm trying to be satirical but I can't really think of another argument

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yes, because Israel definitely doesn't have nukes. That would be in violation of international non-proliferation agreements, and they have the utmost respect for international law.

[–] JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

No one respects international law like Uncle Sam and his buddies!

[–] Not_mikey@slrpnk.net 1 points 2 days ago

They are in ancient history though. They're in the Bible that these people treasure so much, the philistines are mentioned a lot as people who live in the southern Levant who aren't Jewish. After the roman emperor hadrian expelled the jews from Judah he renamed the province Palestine, more to spite the jews then to honor the philistines, which is the name of the region and the people who live in it who are not jews to this day.

Yeah they absorbed a hegemonic imperial Arab culture in the second millennium but that doesn't mean they don't exist. That's like saying Canadians don't exist because them and the u.s. we're created by the same empire and have a very similar culture and language.