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Democrats are trying to work out what went wrong. On the left a consensus is forming
(www.independent.co.uk)
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Losing didn’t reveal anything wrong with the DNC. The problem is with Americans. It’s going to be up to everyday people to reprogram those in the cult. You can’t do that systemically. You have to do it on a personal level. And it takes a lot of time, energy, and compassion. Only then can the underclass have the unity needed to for positive change.
The DNC isn't the party of the underclass. They're corporate goons who throw working class people a bone, so the status quo isn't disrupted.
People are so sick of the status quo, they'll vote for a narcissistic used car salesman like Trump instead.
The fact that the DNC can't read the room, for the third cycle in a row, is absolutely a problem with the DNC and their messaging.
Harris appealed to reason with people who are frustrated and scared. She argued her position like a courtroom lawyer. Trump connected with people on an emotional level. Even if it was all lies and bullshit, he connected. She didn't.
Additionally, Biden's pride and hubris robbed Democratic voters of a primary. People are really sick of this kinda bullshit, and it didn't get people excited to vote.
So they didn't. Election turnout this year was worse than 2020 for the Democrats.
Absolutely an issue with the DNC and they don't need you apologizing for them.
That’s a lot of words you’re putting in my mouth.
The only words I may have put in your mouth is democrats being the party of the underclass.
Which I pulled from context and may not have been your intention. But it's certainly how Democrats market themselves while being status quo politicians.
The rest of my comment directly addresses your main point.
Which boils down too. The DNC is fine. Americans are just brainwashed and don't know what's good for them!
But I get the impression you're being dismissive anyway. Similar to your attitude towards working class voters.
Dems fucked around are in the process of finding out that you can't run as the pro labor party when you haven't done much to improve labor's material conditions in like 35-40y.
I don’t think the problem in America is political. The parties’ purpose is seeking power. The DNC ran a campaign of reasonable promises and pointed out factual dangers of the opposing party. The problems with the parties are a symptom, not the disease.
The world view and values of people who voted for the GOP candidates made a reasonable and rational campaign impossible.
It would be great if a truly progressive party held power and provided the services the American people need. But I’m not sure the DNC would win if they became that party.
Approximately 195 million adult Americans didn’t vote for Donald. We have four years before the next election. The important work to be done isn’t with the parties. It’s healing the 75 million who did vote for this asshole.
That’s tough work, but it’s far easier than living under fascism or having a second civil war.
Need a dictionary for some of them?
You can’t deprogram these people. They love their racism and authority figures. It’s a lost cause. As Carl Sagan once said, there’s a “celebration of ignorance” in the US.
https://www.upworthy.com/carl-sagans-1995-predictions-of-ignorance-and-pseudoscience-were-spookily-accurate
Behold, centrism.
The DNC is a centrist party. The people are the power, not the parties.
Apparently, everyday people can't be trusted to wipe their own ass.