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Israel’s ousted defence minister, Yoav Gallant, has reportedly said the army has achieved all its objectives in Gaza and that Benjamin Netanyahu rejected a hostages-for-peace deal against the advice of his own security establishment.

Gallant was speaking to hostages’ families on Thursday, two days after being sacked by Netanyahu, and reports of his remarks quickly surfaced in Israeli media.

“There’s nothing left in Gaza to do. The major achievements have been achieved,” Channel 12 news quoted him as saying. “I fear we are staying there just because there is a desire to be there.”

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[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 15 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (4 children)

There's no quote of Gallant saying that the army has achieved all its objectives in Gaza. It's just something an anonymous source said that he said. What the article quotes him saying on the record is

He reportedly told the families that the idea that Israel must remain in Gaza to create stability was “an inappropriate idea to risk soldiers’ lives over”.

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“The IDF commander and I said there was no security reason for remaining in the Philadelphi corridor,” Channel 12 reported him as saying. “Netanyahu said that it was a diplomatic consideration; I’m telling you there was no diplomatic consideration.”

That's strong criticism but far from "nothing left to do".

(I'm not sure how fighting this war but then withdrawing from Gaza without creating stability would be in Israel's long-term security interest.)

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 10 points 19 hours ago (3 children)

Everything in that article was something someone said he said. It's all reported by the families of hostages that were at the meeting.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 3 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I see. That makes this hard to interpret, given that a lot depends on the specific language that he used.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Major news organizations believed these quotes were accurate enough to run the story in Israel and Gallant has not issued any countering statement.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 0 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

If the quotes are accurate then I think my original reply still stands, just without that first paragraph. I don't understand how anyone could argue that the Israeli army has already achieved all its objectives in Gaza. Maybe it should withdraw because the remaining objectives are impossible to achieve, but that's a different matter.

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