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[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Exactly. New York would probably elect to stay permanently on UTC-4 (EDT/Atlantic Standard Time), and never switch to UTC-5 (EST) like they are now. Michigan would probably choose UTC-5 permanently, and never switch to UTC-4, like they currently do in the summer.

Both states are in the same time zone. They probably shouldn't be when we go to permanent time.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not having sunrise unill 8:15 in winter is nightmarish. Its also much easier to make your room dark in mid summer than stimulate sunrise in mid winter.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Its easier to illuminate a bedroom in the morning than the great outdoors in a ridiculously early evening.

[–] hglman@lemmy.ml 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Just go outside earlier. We should change jobs and work hours not cause half of everyone sleep deprivation. We can all can win, but its not by using DST year round.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 0 points 20 hours ago

Let's stop using the terms "DST" and "standard time". They really confuse the issue. The contiguous US uses UTC-4 (EDT) , UTC-5 (EST/CDT) UTC-6 (CST/MDT), UTC-7 (MST/PDT) and UTC-8 (PST) time zones. We aren't all going to be using the same UTC offset for permanent time. We are all going to be adopting the UTC offset that makes sense for our region.

New England and Michigan are currently in the same time zone, which switches between UTC-4 and UTC-5. Year-round UTC-5 puts dawn before 4am in New York City during the summer. New England should absolutely not be on UTC-5 in the summer. They should be on UTC-4. On permanent UTC-4, New York dawns will always be between 5 and 8 AM.

Year-round UTC-4 puts dawn at 9am in Detroit during the winter. Detroit should absolutely not be in UTC-4 in the winter. On permanent UTC-5, Detroit dawns will always be between 5 and 8 AM.

New York should be on permanent UTC-4. Detroit should be on permanent UTC-5.