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Saw a post without noticing the community and commented a genuine comment with good intentions.

Apparently it was against the rules of that community and I was banned.

Original post:

My (removed) comment:

And yeah, the last comment was sarcasm.

I just don't really understand why is there a community for shitting on Linux? Like I can get not liking it, and hating the Linux die hard fans, but it really is an amazing thing that is integral to almost all modern computing... Kind of like hating social media by having a facebook page for it.

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[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 47 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

There was a time when there was an annual "Linux Sucks" presentation that I liked because it was a roundup of candid, yet constructive criticism of Linux (and then at some point the person running that went off the deep end and started yelling about woke agendas).

I wouldn't mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken when running linux, and we as a community then try to fix them or find workarounds.

But as others have pointed out, that community isn't a community, it's literally just one account hanging out by themselves.

[–] drhoopoe@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t mind there being a whole community devoted to pointing out shit that is poorly designed or just broken

But isn't that every linux forum?

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 11 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Yeah, but I think it can feel too much like a circle jerk around here sometimes. I get that people want to win over new users, but some of it goes too far I think. The fact is Linux isn't perfect, and while no OS is, there are some critical things you can do on Windows that are still a pain in the ass on Linux. Some of that is a vendor/proprietary software problem, but a good chunk of it is just people being willing to overlook a thin layer of jank in their normal workflows.

I think we'd all be better off to all acknowledge and clean up the jank rather than try to pretend it's fine as is.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

To be fair, Windows has its own jank. As someone who is forced to use Windows 11 for work, I'm much happier putting up with the minimum Linux jank I've experienced compared to the Windows jank.

If any of that made sense.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 weeks ago

There is a guy that is a Linux dev, that maintains* a list of what sucks about linux, its very comprehensive--but a bit dated. He alao has same for Windows. I will have to look for the link

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

" that community isn't a community, it's literally just one account hanging out by themselves."

Is it though? Here's a screenshot from comfy@lemmy.ml showing 2 other contributors (and this isn't chat; I'm not here to 'hang out').

It's also new and trending. Even on Reddit's r/linuxsucks, I was a prolific poster, and continue as such on r/desktoplinuxsucks.

Maybe just admit being butt-hurt or mute, because you aren't the intended audience and it brings you discomfort. -Thanks

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Lol that's actually hilarious. So but, why not comment on your posts too? Each post is just sitting there with an empty comments section.

[–] madthumbs@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I got into mostly posting rather that commenting because of the hostility of Linux evangelists / brigaders. -Posts can't yield negative karma on reddit. My comment is typically in the form of the title or in the customization / creation of the meme.

Maybe you're still thinking back to when it was new; there are some posts from today (or a matter of a couple hours) with 3 comments already. It's funny how people are criticizing it when there's some adjustment (getting the right audience / parcipation) to be done in the face of a brigading / evangelizing issue from people it's not meant for. I didn't bring a community, and I'm not going to recruit for here from the reddit subs.

It's unlikely that anyone is going to come along and contribute anywhere near as much as I do. -I don't see the problem with that. Progress is happening and we are continually on the trending lists. IMO it's working.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'm all for it. All publicity is good publicity in this space. Open criticism is the first step to better open software.