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The atmosphere is so heated, and the statements are getting more and more extreme. Let's just assume Harris wins the election. After a campaign like this, how could you ever have a normal relationship with your pro-Trump neighbor/father-in-law/Uncle/Barber or what ever again?

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[–] doctorfail@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (2 children)

For me, I assume the Trump voters in my life have fallen for propaganda. Not every Trump voter realized that Trump isn’t in their interest; they’re simple people who think Trump is funny and down to earth and points out many of the serious problems we genuinely do have.

The issue, of course, is that he’s not going to help fix those problems. He’s going to make the country far worse and is obviously only in it for himself.

[–] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

it's not hard to see what a piece of shit he is so if you're still voting for him you're also a piece of shit.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, you could also be gullible or stupid.

[–] kaosof@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Being gullible or stupid isn't an excuse.

Especially not in 2024.

Man, after the dust settled once the third reich crumbled, that was the excuse millions of people in Germany had.

Most people weren't on board with or even know about the genocidal engine underpinning it all, but they sure as hell could see the other bad shit that was going on, and by the time it was obvious for everyone, it was much too late, because they controlled everything and harsh punishments were known to be expected for everyone except the ultra-privileged.

Nah, man. Being an inflexible, obnoxious asshole is not an excuse to put millions of people in danger and setting horrendous precedents.

[–] CyberDine@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

I disagree.

It's not easy for them to see why Trump is a POS. They are victims of a 50 year effort by the oligarchs of this Country to destroy the poor and the middle class. They are victims of Foreign Propaganda that has taken root and grown like cancer. They have been gaslit into believing everything wrong with this Country is because of a political party, not the wealthy elite who have them fighting for crumbs.

The American people and it's Well have been fed a steady diet of poison and it's led to an intense polarization, isolationism, and record level of fear.

It's impossible to act rationally or reasonably when scared and any one who votes for Trump is mainlining fear, uncertainty and doubt.

They are trapped in a 1984 Orwellian distopia where their entire reality is controlled and fabricated by a fascist organization. Their level of cognitive dissonance is off the charts.

You would not be able to convince them that the sky is blue if Trump told them it was green.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I'd agree, if it wasn't for you having an obligation as a voting citizen to be somewhat informed of your decision. Anyone who votes for Trump has either failed to meet that basic requirement, or they're a shitty person. The latter is actually fine, the former is not.

[–] Shanedino@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Faithless electors have happened a couple times historically.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

If there is ever a legitimate use for its absurd existence, it would be in an effort to stop a literal fascist.