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[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 84 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Someone should've reminded him Puerto Rico is an American territory, and its residents are full fledged American citizens. While the island itself gets no electoral college votes, any of its citizens living in one of the 50 states get the same rights and privileges as the rest of us.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 50 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not only do they get no electoral college votes, they don't get to vote for president at all, though they can vote in the primaries.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right. Unless they've moved away from Puerto Rico and live somewhere in the mainland now, which is a whole shitload of them.

[–] WhatAmLemmy@lemmy.world 37 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The mere concept of denying certain citizens a right to vote, or a reduced/amplified vote, based on their where they live is entirely anti-democratic.

It's amazing how much Americans have just accepted blindly as the pinnacle of freedom.

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 9 points 1 week ago

It's the legacy of the 3/5ths clause.

[–] Carrolade@lemmy.world 8 points 1 week ago

Agreed. We have similar issues with our electoral college in general. The framers were quite specific in designing a system that wasn't too democratic. One of the reasons for this was, ironically, a fear that a populist demagogue could take over at some point in the future.

Go figure. Though I suppose no system is completely immune to demagoguery.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

A lot of someones did remind him of that after Hurricane Maria, when he loudly bragged about getting on the phone with "the president of Puerto Rico" and was subsequently reminded that that was him.

Honestly, that's probably 90% of the reason he even went to Puerto Rico (and threw paper towel rolls at them).

[–] atempuser23@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Not a single Trump voter changed their minds. The Trump Puerto Ricans agree with this. They just think it's the 'others' fault.

This may even get them TO vote since someone sees the 'problems' they live with. This is how EVERY group that votes Trump against their own interest feel.

They 100% don't know they are included with the 'problem'

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