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[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Well, according to Gray Man theory, this is actually good that you don't recognize. But no...that man you're talking to is very clearly a prepper.

The best way I can tell you is prepping... is a rainbow. A varied spectrum of people, with many different beliefs & motivations. Actually, I guess we can compare it to the current Democrat Party! The crazy ones get all the attention, they make the news and everybody points at them and says, wow, that's crazy. That's too far. I can't get behind that. It's the same with preppers. You have preppers that prepare for "zombies". Or, as you said, when everything collapses badly. There are many more preppers that are just sensibly preparing for very real scenarios. Stockpile a little today for a better tomorrow. A simpler, stronger life.

The real preppers, the best preppers, don't just hoard; they incorporate their preps into daily living. It is a lifestyle. You have tools for working the land, tools to move stuff around, you build out the life you think you'll want & need. Not just stored in a bunker, but to use next week. The zombie shit is really dumb, most of the products are cheap & low quality gimmicks. Probably because they know you're a sucker, anyway. As Canadian Prepper says... eventually...all preppers become farmers.

I prep, in part, for short to longer term no-power scenarios. Those assholes up in Chicago threatened to cut off power to downstate...2-3 years ago?...and I never forgot that. I said, okay. Guess this is something I need to think about now. ¯\(°_o)/¯ Prepping is much like a UPS (Uninterruptible Power Supply). System fucks up, no power? Well I'm going to be okay for a while, anyway. This isn't the exact article I read, but here's a source, anyway. People don't understand how dangerously fragile, old our power grid is. It is susceptible to attack by foreign entities, or simply overload during peak usage.

Calling preppers selfish, idk where in the ever-loving fuck these guys get off...if I don't require assistance in an emergency, that's more assistance that can be sent to other people in need. I'm actively preparing, spending my own time, money, and efforts to help myself and others. In Israel, everyone is required to have a safe room & 2 weeks of food, water in it. They have inspections! And don't even get me started on Switzerland.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Like I said, the person I am talking to is not what people think of when they think of 'prepper.' Maybe it's not fair that the word means something different than it should to most people, but that's just how language works. 'Woke' no longer means being aware of inherent racial injustices. 'Liberal' no longer has anything to do with classical liberalism.

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Your grandparents, and great-grandparents, were probably preppers. The ability to not be forced to prepare for hard(er) times is the real luxury.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Did you read any of what I just wrote?

[–] CoffeeJunkie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Your tone 🙄🙄🙄

Yes. I read it all. I particularly read this section here:

I don't know that the actions are the same though. That's sort of the point of the thing I posted. People like you are actually doing shit. What most people think of as 'preppers' are people who have a closet full of MREs, two giant jugs of water, and a massive guns and ammunition collection, people who tell you about how the world will end if Trump isn't elected and they're ready for it.

I think if those people were like you, even if they had stupid motivations, there wouldn't be so much derision. But they don't actually put the work in. They essentially think if they buy enough ammo and Jim Bakker rapture survival food buckets, they're ready for every eventuality.


Perhaps you are correct that the popular definition has changed, much like the Greeks (hilariously) changed the definition of egregious through their use of sarcasm. But your understanding is just plain wrong, you are incorrect. Your downvotes mean nothing, I've seen what makes you cheer.

I see no need to rebrand to conform to ignorance & lack of understanding. If you would like to learn more about prepping, here are some channels you can look into. I'd also recommend looking at the Facebook group, The Phantom Planters. It's prepping, kinda, but in a farming/growing way, whatever you want to call it. Perhaps you'll be inspired to plant some fruit trees around Indiana. 🙂

...and yes, the timing is embarrassing on my end because Canadian Prepper just announced last night that he is building a bunker. But he presents lots of good information otherwise. You'll probably like City Prepping more.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world -1 points 1 month ago

None of that is in the comment you replied to.

This is the comment you replied to:

Like I said, the person I am talking to is not what people think of when they think of ‘prepper.’ Maybe it’s not fair that the word means something different than it should to most people, but that’s just how language works. ‘Woke’ no longer means being aware of inherent racial injustices. ‘Liberal’ no longer has anything to do with classical liberalism.

You're kind of proving my point. You're trying really hard to defend a word that no longer means to people what you want it to mean. The language has moved on.