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[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 73 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Fuckface 45 literally said that Israel should "finish the job":

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20240628-trump-let-israel-finish-the-job-in-gaza/

I'm not voting for that Fuckface. Neither should any intelligent person.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So the one says it out loud, the other just keeps the intention quiet.

Both are equally sending weapons.

However with Trump we saw that he pulled American soldiers out of the region and he is much more unstable. So when American soldiers die, he could just decide to fold the whole thing again.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

So when American soldiers die, he could just decide to fold the whole thing again.

That would require him to give a shit about the soldiers dying to make a change. His history says the exact opposite of that. Soldiers dying would do absolutely nothing towards whether he changes anything.

[–] Saleh@feddit.org 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Trump pulled most troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Sure he doesnt care about the soldiers life, but he isnt committed to being a war hawk. He just does random stuff.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The troop withdrawal was already being worked before Trump even started campaigning. He just decided to speed it up dramatically so he could say he achieved something, and promised a deadline that was unattainable while doing it well. It's not random, it's narcissism at the expense of everything else, including the country.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 month ago

The troop withdrawal was already being worked before Trump even started campaigning.

Yeah it was in the works for like 20 years lol.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No intelligent person should vote for a party supporting a genocide either. Israel government is finishing the job already.

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok. But either Harris or Trump WILL be our next president with how fucked up our election system is.

Who would you rather fight on this? A run of the mill democrat, or a literal nazi? We’re choosing our opponent, it’s the only choice we get.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Don't support any of them and use your energies somewhere else, you said yourself that the system is fucked up

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Okay black pill bro. When you grow up and understand how things actually work, let us know.

Maybe those of us who are actively trying (while also understanding how our choices work) will acquire Ranked Choice voting before you become mature enough to join in on this non-black-or-white conversation.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Maybe those of us who are actively trying

Advocating for the government and ruling parties is actively trying to empower them even more.

[–] PunnyName@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

You some champion of missing the point?

[–] Kalysta@lemm.ee 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Sure. And then trump wins and i completely lose my reproductive rights and my trans wife loses her healthcare.

There’s more at stake here.

[–] index@sh.itjust.works -2 points 1 month ago

There’s more at stake here.

There's indeed more at stake, there's an ongoing genocide in gaza where kids are being murdered daily. If you care about human rights that's even more reason for you to stop supporting the parties that for decades have fuck over these rights.