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She did fine, if anything it was eye opening to me how many shitlibs are on r/politics
Taking Jill Stein seriously? You ok?
No, they aren't, and they won't be getting better, either.
Notable differences between Stein and Harris:
I live in a blue state and will be voting Green to try to build momentum for third parties and STAR voting. I do hope Trump is defeated and thrown in jail, and I'd reconsider my vote if I lived in a purple state.
If you want to get any real momentum for third parties, throwing your vote away isn't it.
Voting blue in a solid blue state for a candidate I have huge moral issues with (Palestine, climate change) is the definition of throwing my vote away.
You're still throwing your vote away.
Even if I accept that any state is really as solid blue as people may think, we have the opportunity as a nation to cast an overwhelming vote against fascism. That would be sending a message that the entire free world could be proud of. Nah, you can't be bothered. You'd rather cast your vote for a Putin asset.
I'm voting for the Green party, not a fascist.
The entirety of the United Nations except the US and Israel has condemned the massacre in Gaza as a genocide. You think everyone would be proud of voting for someone who intends to continue to ship weapons to Israel?
No proof and regardless this is bigger than Jill Stein, this is about building power to the left of the Democratic party. Claudia De la Cruz would definitely be my preferred candidate over Stein, but it is what it is.
"I also want to thank your father, Vice President Dick Cheney, for his support and what he has done to serve our country. "
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/kamala-harris-campaign-liz-cheney-wisconsin-republicans/
"I think it would be to the benefit of the American public to have a member of my Cabinet who was a Republican.”
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/kamala-harris-pledges-republican-cabinet-member-rcna168879
She literally sat down with putin, and you're whatabouting some bipartisan shit.
What time is it, by the way?
Your candidate is touting the support of the man who engineered the invasion of Iraq under false pretenses, and Republicans in general rolled back abortion (which is going to cost the lives of many women) and are against climate action (which is going to completely fuck over future generations, if not the current ones).
Please explain to me how throwing them a bone is going to make things any better. They're extremist fuckers and Democrats should have a bold progressive plan instead of throwing them a bone.
But go ahead, continue to vote shame instead of taking a long look in the mirror.
Seriously, fuck Dick Cheney.
Welcoming support from the opposing party is the same as killing women through legislating health care. Gotcha. What time is it where you are?
If you can't see that we have real problems in this country that neither party is solving, you need to get a fucking grip.
I'm done with you, you're the one who decided to engage on a days old thread.
It's so weird you immediately list the differences between Stein and Harris, but not Trump. Totally unprompted. Considering that a third party is going against the other two, that's odd. Almost like you know exactly what you're doing, but won't admit it.
Why would I list the differences between Stein and Trump when I literally just said that I hope Trump loses (and thrown in jail). At no point was I ever considering voting for him. The whole point is that third parties aren't part of the corporate duopoly.
I'm explaining why I'm voting my conscience in a rigged FPTP system where my vote otherwise amounts to nothing (because again I'm in a blue state), but clearly nothing I say is going to stop you from making insinuations.
Edited: the last sentence of my first paragraph for clarity
Okay, but who is going to vote for those things if the Greens don't win any House or Senate seats, even if they win the presidency?
Hey I just want to say I appreciate you treating me with respect which is more than I can say for a bunch of other commenters here.
I think the president has a decent amount of power, even with a hostile congress. They can declare a climate emergency, and get funding for renewable energy that way; they can enforce an arms embargo or other sanctions (on say, Israel), they can use the bully pulpit to point out the hypocrisy of congress's inaction.
But the most important thing to come out of it would be that the Democratic party would be forced to listen to people on the left, and not just court right wingers all the time.
You’re full of shit
Ah, name-calling instead of addressing my argument; classic!
what in gods holy name are you blathering about