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My #1 recommandation for messenger, as the day of today (lemmy.ml)

submitted 4 weeks ago by foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Just a post to say the goods of using SimpleX instead of others "private" messenger. First it doesn't not require any id, phone number, etc... Can create how many accounts that you want! Decentralized servers, everyone can run and use own servers, and communicate with others! Big privacy side! Look at this one of the best https://privacyspreadsheet.com/messaging-apps. The only negative is the usability of the app, this is why it needs support and be democratize to gain attraits to people, and maybe one day be one the most used messenger app...

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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 21 points 4 weeks ago (14 children)

Simplex is pretty nice, but to me XMPP already does all that you described, and metadata isn't that important to me. Plus XMPP has better clients for mobile and desktop

[–] foremanguy92_@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

For 1:1 and small groups, XMPP is not as convenient + not as secure

[–] andylicious1337@lemmy.world 4 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

but why isnt it secure? if you know that the other person is using the same version of omemo it is secure. and if you are self-hosting it, meta-data is no issue either

[–] kixik@lemmy.ml 4 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

Actually xmpp is low on metadata compared to matrix which has to replicate a bunch of metadata everywhere. SimpleX look interesting, though by not being federated (considered by simpleX a privacy feature) whether you like their client or not. Just so you know privacyguides has explained why they don't advertise xmpp as privacy oriented, and the reason is not that it isn't, it's simply that given it's federated, they consider some clients are not as compliant or up to date, which is up to the user to select on XMPP, and also up to the user to file bugs against their preferred client or even contribute it with changes.

[–] zod000@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 weeks ago

My stance is that XMPP and Matrix are only private if you self host and don't federate. That really cuts down on who may want to use them, but it can be great for a small community, company, or family assuming you can get everyone to buy in.

[–] andylicious1337@lemmy.world 1 points 4 weeks ago

thank you for the info. that clears up some doubts I had with xmpp :)

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