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[–] Goun@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Wait, isn't Harris pro-Israel?

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Both "parties" compete over who's the most zionist.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works -1 points 1 month ago (6 children)

This is emphatically false. Like... Literally just a lie straight from the "both parties" crowd.

The democrats are currently pressuring Israel and pushing back politically (weakly, since they seem afraid of piss off voters and hand everything to Trump).

The Republicans fully support everything taking place right now. 100% support for Israel and this Hitler-esque leader of Isreal.

[–] njm1314@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago

“No administration has helped Israel more than I have. None, none, none,"

Joe Biden like yesterday

[–] MisterScruffy@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

The democrats are currently pressuring Israel and pushing back politically

How is Israel being pressured? Do you mean phone calls where Biden asks bibi to chill then sends him everything he wants anyway? That's not pressure. Pressure would be putting conditions on arms transfers and Biden won't do that so the only thing separating Ds and Rs on this issue is a very thin veil of rhetoric that no one believes anyway

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 10 points 1 month ago

The democrats are currently pressuring Israel and pushing back politically

Saying "Hey, bud, don't do x, is I'll be real mad at you," and then going "Gee, you did what I told you not to. Well, here's a few billion dollars more weapons for you, so you can keep doing what I publicly asked you not to do." is not pressuring them, it's attempting to give plausible deniability to people who feel bad about supporting a blatantly genocidal state, and to fool the folks who take soundbites in the news at face value.

Current Democratic pressure amounts to fuck all outside of a handful of legislators who are demonized by the centrist and right wing factions of the party. To say otherwise is to either deny reality, or else willfully misrepresent it.

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago

The democrats are currently pressuring Israel

Do you suppose they could pressure me? I could use billions of dollars with no strings attached.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Tom Cotton has all but said Netanyahu should kill every Palestinian, which is further than even Netanyahu's own far-right partners will go in public.