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[–] rimu@piefed.social 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

All this talk of encryption and sopenas is mostly pointless - all the police need to do is join any of the Telegram channels and see the evidence for themselves, like in this case - https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/350438242/man-who-wanted-build-gallows-hear-jacinda-arderns-neck-snap-guilty-threats-kill

No doubt there are private channels but there's absolutely no shortage of criminal stuff happening out in the open.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

all the police need to do is join any of the Telegram channels and see the evidence for themselves

I mean, that doesn't tell them who any of those people are?

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

That’s what subpoenas are for, to request the ip address and other identifying information are for. The documentation of activity in the channel is the evidence shown to a judge that then gets the official legal request.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

That’s what that’s what subpoenas are for

Did you just not read the part of their comment that I quoted?

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I did. Then I replied and here we are.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

But your reply makes no sense since the person I was replying to specifically said they didn't need subpoenas.

[–] KillerTofu@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

No, they did not say that. Which is why I responded. You really do like to look for inane arguments.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If your strategy is just to blatantly lie about what was said, despite the fact that it's there for everyone to see, then I see no reason to continue this bad faith discussion. Bye.

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Stop being eristic dude. Everywhere I go I see those dumbass comments of you. If no one here makes sense to you, then maybe the problem is in front of your monitor. But I'm pretty sure you're just looking for arguments.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl -4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Have you considered not following me around and harassing me? Or maybe just not being wrong all the time?

[–] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 1 points 1 month ago

I didn't follow you around. I click on various threads and end up having to read you playing stupid to cause arguments with various other people. Maybe touch some grass and work on whatever issue it is that is causing you to feel the need to troll people online.

[–] rimu@piefed.social -1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Half of them use their real name. Also a lot of them are sharing links to content they've posted using their personal FB account or whatever. They don't even try to have any opsec because they don't think they're doing anything wrong.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 2 points 1 month ago

Half of them use their real name.

Which would never be admissible as evidence in court. I could make an account right now using your name, would that make you criminally liable for anything that I say?

Also a lot of them are sharing links to content they've posted using their personal FB account or whatever.

Do you think I couldn't create a FB account with your name? Do you know how many friend requests I get every day from redundant accounts trying to masquerade as people I'm already friends with?