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It's quite sad to see everything related to the blackout on /r/programming wiped. (lemmy.brendan.ie)

submitted 1 year ago by silver@lemmy.brendan.ie to c/programming@programming.dev

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/r/programming came back up two days ago and as far as I can tell everything relating to the blackout was wiped. I kinda expected it since spez was admin.

Another thing that surprised me was how much chatGPT bot spam there is (danm it is so so bad, wonder what the mods are doing over there.... ah yes, spez).

I used to sort by hot so it was hidden away a bit for me before.

Anyways I hope Lemmy does not fall into the same pitfalls!

goes back into lurk mode

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[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 30 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Anyways I hope Lemmy does not fall into the same pitfalls!

I really hope! Just watchout for Meta

[–] bboplifa@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I think the majority in the fediverse would just move to an instance that defederated meta, at least I know I would and I have a feeling that I am a typical fediverse user

[–] philm@programming.dev 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah I have the feeling that sign-up should probably default to be manually moderated, to avoid a bot-swarm taking over accounts (and well probably a lot of bot instances need to be blacklisted then as well).

I'm not sure how dirty the game of big social media is/will be, but if they really feel threatened, they may start something like that (might make sense to be legally secured in that case...).

[–] bboplifa@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

that is pretty labor intensive, I wonder how many of us would want to pitch in, or if the server software even allows delegating that responsibility to non admins. I know for sure that I dont have time to mod lemmy as much as I want to see it succeed after abandoning r

[–] philm@programming.dev 3 points 1 year ago

I think at the time where this will be relevant, it will be implemented (I don't think it's that difficult), I don't think it will be that difficult. Apart from that a lot of the instances already have manual sign up, and it's working well so far AFAIK. (The beauty of decentralization is, that this work will be distributed among all the different instances, whereas the number of instances is ideally proportionally growing like the userbase). But yeah ideally it wouldn't be necessary and some kind of smart algorithm (AI? captcha?) will decide whether the user is allowed to register (as it is currently with captchas)... But we'll see...

[–] Feyter@programming.dev -3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What should meta possible change about Lemmy or programming.dev? They have no power here even if we federate with them.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

They have no power here even if we federate with them.

The current matter with Meta is that they have bad intentions towards the fediverse

https://infosec.pub/post/400702

And even if you don't have Threads app installed, Meta is also a privacy threat to fediverse users. If there are fediverse instances that are still federated with Meta.

Ross Schulman, senior fellow for decentralization at digital rights nonprofit the Electronic Frontier Foundation, notes that if Threads emerges as a massive player in the fediverse, there could be concerns about what he calls “social graph slurping." Meta will know who all of its users interact with and follow within Threads, and it will also be able to see who its users follow in the broader fediverse. And if Threads builds up anywhere near the reach of other Meta platforms, just this little slice of life would give the company a fairly expansive view of interactions beyond its borders.

https://www.wired.com/story/meta-threads-privacy-decentralization/

[–] philm@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's also my worry. That Meta (is it already legally allowed to use that name anyway...?) will try to grab data and analyze it for free kind of (without the potential ad revenue, but well at least free data...). With AI it can likely easily pinpoint/target each user and create a profile or something, maybe even link it with people on their platforms I guess...

Anyway they could still just use the API I guess, they just can't easily subscribe to the Activity streams via their official instance (but of course they could spin up an instance that just crawls and subscribes to every instance).

I'm really interested what their intention is exactly, but it's for sure not good...