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This whole thing is a bit hypocritical coming from Americans and Westerners
Generally, the people posting this sort of thing also support land back or some variant of it, and will be on the side of the indigenous population in any dispute with western colonizers.
Nope, all Americans bad. We're bad. Just embrace it, I guess.
https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/13768084
Where are you seeing Lemmygrad?
I can understand when the topic is comparison, but my experience is that it seems that more often than not, the comparison is made even when not part of the topic. It could be some horrible news of a tragedy that occurred in the US, and rather than discuss the matter at hand, the comments are about how Europe is better. Of course they don't do that with other countries like Brazil, India, or Mexico. That's the point of the comment: to point out how ridiculous it would be, especially when a lot of the issues in those countries could be traced back to European colonization. But, since the US is a powerhouse with GDP, military, media, and global political power, everyone thinks it's okay to shit on it. I'd like to point out that the GDP stays at the top. Arguably, the quality of life of the average EU resident is better than the average American resident. Y'all tell us everyday with your medical systems and healthcare access, workers rights, time off, gun control, etc.
If American culture constantly has a delusional state of superiority, then why are the comments on Lemmy about how the EU is superior? Let's compare the number of comments on Lemmy in which Americans state or imply their superiority to Europe with vice versa. I bet that ratio will easily surpass 1:10. And the American one will more likely than not be downvoted to hell. Yeah, there are Americans and American media that are delusional about their superiority, but that is not the case with Lemmy users. In general, those are conservatives/Republicans and some moderates. Europe has those clowns too. American users on Lemmy tend to be quite left, desire strong leftist policies, and acknowledge the reality of the situation while being humble af, yet they are the ones that have to read all the shit talking about Americans every day on here. It's annoying af; that's all.
edit: Btw, despite that everyone may disagree with me, justifiably or not, I appreciate the opportunity to have this discussion.
Let the native americans have it back. I bet they'd do a better job then republicans and democrats.
*than
No, no, they have a point: The original native population DID do a better job... But then Republicans and Democrats.
Is there any country on earth that hasn't at one point been involved in a land dispute?
I think having a land dispute is the first step in having a country at all
One of the classic blunders
Yeah, I wouldn't be able to defend Israels actions either. So, I'd would have to resort to deflections and cheap whataboutery like you too.
American terrorists don't get to tell me what war is bad
Some!
How do you justify ignoring everyone else telling you its bad tho?
Ironically, people say the same thing about Israel now.
You mean Europeans. They took the continents of Noth and South America from the natives.
....they then left and a whole different bunch of white people turned up to live in the land that had been recently been stolen from the indigenous Americans.
You'd have thought that the indigenous Americans would have tried to take their land back in the time between the Europeans leaving and the Americans turning up but I guess not.
Weird how the Europeans left and Americans showed up...almost like the Europeans just started calling themselves Americans.
Thats the one.
Yeah that's fair
Yup. You guys haven't stopped colonizing. Neo colonies are a thing even if you don't like to admit it. It's funny you don't want me to judge you by the atrocities of your ancestors, yet you guys still treat my people like savages
“My people” you aren’t some king man
You thought us brown people wouldn't still be a nation even after all your murder? Racist fuck
hey, we took that land fair and square.
Yes, we are all bad people. Hold on, I need to finish eating my cat, and I'll weigh in more.