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Did something happen with Godot that caused the lost sponsors....?
Edit: this thread has some discussion if you're out of the loop like me
https://www.reddit.com/r/gamedev/comments/1ft26by/what_is_going_on_with_the_wogot_engine/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Kinda sounds like Godot did pretty much nothing wrong and it's just a bunch of internet drama? Hard to tell honestly
Silly drama about a mod of an unofficial discord.
It was the official discord until earlier this year, so it's kinda not just "some unofficial server". Also, the mod in question was using racial slurs. Granted, the Godot foundation also split ways with them.
Additionally there was something about an over zealous community manager blocking people over responses that supposedly weren't all that inflammatory or bad? I'm not super sure there, I've only kinda half been paying attention to it
This leaves out a lot. xananax did use the n-word in a few messages 8 years ago to refer to himself as a joke, in response to being called that in other communities (he's arab and thus one of the slurs was sand n-word). He has apologized for those messages a long time ago, and throughout the years has shown no tolerance towards towards racism or any other kinds of bigotry. What he did do sometimes was use some very strong and crude language (think on the level of calling someone human filth) towards such bigots (if I recall correctly there were at least two instances of such events in the past once towards someone defending israel's actions and another towards a transphobe, he did apologize for both I think). Like, I think he can be criticized, but not for racism.
Also, I think the main drama is just bigots suddenly noticing Godot's stance in regards to inclusiveness that the foundation had the whole time, from a tweet by the foundation sarcastically using the word "woke" and encouraging people to share their games that are "woke". The xananax thing isn't really the main drama, I think.
Yes, the Twitter drama is the actual drama, not the discord stuff. Their official Twitter posted a relatively harmless "woke" tweet, which got met with the usual derogatory replies you would expect on Twitter. They then deleted all those replies and blocked their authors, but also deleted and blocked tons of regular replies to the tweet.
The following statement by their community manager also pissed off a lot of people, because they were asking everyone that got blocked to manually appeal the block, instead of just taking their time to review the tweets they deleted and unblocking people
Even then it's still a minor drama that is getting blown out of proportion
Outrage baiters doing their rounds. Business as usual.
They made a cheeky tweet asking for people to share their projects while referencing a lowlife saying that "using 3rd party engines is woke"
cockroach "people" then jumped in on it triggering a harassment campaign
Please dont call people lowlifes or cockroaches or "people" thats such a Nazi way of expressing your thoughts. Im sure there are better insults that dont involve calling them "subhuman".
For those objecting to this it's absolutely true. Fight Nazis, with guns when necessary, but do not be misled into believing they are wholly alien or inhuman. That's how you end up living in the middle of a bunch of Nazis without realizing their Nazis.
Remember the most pathetic thing about these people is they they are as human as everyone else, they just actively decided to utterly lobotomize their empathy and compassion.
The last thing I want is to normalize dehumanizing people
Maybe it comes from being a part of a group that has historically been dehumanized but it always leads to bad outcomes
Bots ain't people yet.
I’ll remember that as they put you on the wall, right after they put me up there too.
You don’t try to love cancer away, you cut it out or physically destroy it by all means possible.
And boy, has Western society metastasized.
Dehumanising really isn’t effective against nazis, because it implies that actual humans aren’t capable of atrocious behaviour while we’ve clearly seen that they are. It’s always better to call nazis/fascists/imperialists/colonialists/racists/homophobes/etc by their name.
If we look at their perspective, engines that could block you from developing in them are more "woke" than an open source one that doesn't enforce any restriction on its developers by design. Going after godot for this feels so dumb.
It's just a vocal minority of people with nothing to do, so they get mad at other people being happier than they are.
Ah. I misread the post, I follow what the guy is saying and what your title was about now.
And yeah that's more or less the basic jist I was getting. Seems like a really dumb thing for people to be upset over.
WTF is the "Gamer Word?"
Racist and sexist slurs, most likely.
You know, edgy 14 year old kids on xbox
I'm so glad the Internet didn't exist when I was that age.
I no longer identify as a "gamer" it's long since been coopted by a group I have no desire to associate with.
Not sure what their "world" is but I imagine a lot of tendonitis from all the knee jerk reactions from the members of it
Hey that's exactly why I'm back on Lemmy. After getting "we'll ackshewally'd" one too many times by PC Gameurs™ I just fucking can't anymore
Literally every game dev I know feels the same way. Gamers are the actual worst. Even when they're not doing their culture war schtick, they're complaining about the overhead of borderless fullscreen like it's 2010.
The n-word.
Such named for multiple incidents of edgy preteens using it in voice chat. And then PewDiePie cementing the relationship during an infamous incident where he said it while playing player unknown's battlegrounds.
Oh you know...
So just shitty people we don't need in the community anyway.
Also my impression. Seems like it's manufactured, encouragement not to engage with any of it?
The only people who are mad are the kinds of people who have the ages of consent memorized for all 50 states.