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[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

For what reason do you think they'd build their HQ there and not far away from the population?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

The IDF HQ is in central Tel Aviv.

Hell, forget the ME, the Greek army HQ is next to a metro station. The Canadian Army HQ is in central Ottawa. Indian army HQ in downtown New Delhi.

This is not the own that the "human shields" narrative for Lebanon wants it to be.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

If you take a look at it, you'd realize it is tall, and far from any habitation. And in a military base. If is was attacked, there would be little risks of civilian collateral damages. Sure, it is in central Tel Aviv on paper, but more because the city grew around it than because it was deliberately put there.

I couldn't find anything about the Greek army HQ, care to provide a link?

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Here you go: https://maps.app.goo.gl/M4uFig4YF5PL8Zp56

Edit: the line between "it happened organically through urban growth" and "was put there on purpose" is the line between "I like them" and "I don't like them". Like who you like but don't expect everyone to buy into your narrative.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world -2 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Funny since I'm rather pro palestinian, but let's go with it.

I take into account that I don't know a lot of things as I'm not some sort of omnipotent being.

Here is the data I got :

On the Hezbollah, as they don't have an habit of documenting their bases (for obvious reason), all I know is that it was in a densely inhabited area, and reportedly underground.
So either it was built before this zone became densely populated, or it was built on a later date, knowing the area was densely inhabited.
Either way, it is either negligence, if they allowed the population to encroach on what should be considered a military area, or knowingly, to use the population as shield. Unfortunately they are against an army that don't care about killing innocents, so that was of no use.

On the IDF side, according to Wikipedia, Camp Rabin is used as the IDF headquarters since 1948, at that time it was still an agricultural settlement in the periphery of Tel Aviv. This was seized from a Christian community, reportedly because they where nazi sympathizers, and they used to create the IDF HQ there.