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    [–] Omgboom@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 month ago (7 children)

    Everyone knows that Windows 7 was peak Windows

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 28 points 1 month ago

    You misspelled Windows 3.11 for Workgroups.

    tada.wav 4eva

    [–] marcos@lemmy.world 16 points 1 month ago (4 children)

    It peaked somewhere between 2000 and 7. Personally, I place it in XP, but opinions vary.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Fire up React OS one of these days

    [–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    React OS is awesome, and I need it to run stable on some metal.

    And also play WoW, because I don't trust linux to run whatever copy-protection crap is on there and not brick my account through no fault of its own.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Just keep in mind is unstable and not secure

    Fun to play with. Just don't use it for critical stuff

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 month ago

    So, basically, just like Windows? Sounds like they're succeeding then

    [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    98SE, XP, and 7 each were relatively solid for their time. They all had issues, but were far better at being an OS than what we have now or are trying to be sold to constantly upgrade to.

    [–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

    98SE was complete crap and people only forget about it because it was followed by ME.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

    ME was even worse. It either worked fine or just didn't work at all (BSODs all the time). 98SE was crap as well, but ME is the leader in that department.

    [–] Rhaedas@fedia.io 0 points 1 month ago

    It had its issues, but for the time it was good. Probably depended on the machine and what you were running. That was back in the days when making things work meant the right drivers, and the Win98SE CD usually made it work.

    ME was so bad that MS forgot about it themselves. I bought a new laptop with ME installed that ran terribly, replaced it with 98 and it ran great.

    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 4 points 1 month ago

    2K was my jam.

    The death of the DOS line of Windows (3.x, 9x, ME) lead to the decision to inject clown DNA into NT in order to appeal to the masses and that's how we ended up with XP.

    Vista was an attempt to eradicate the clown, but it was still there, people hated it and because Microsoft thought they had eradicated the clown, they thought people wanted more clown, and that's how we ended up with Windows 8.

    What about 7? The clown gene skipped a generation.

    [–] dufkm@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

    I run Debian at home because "Microsoft evil", but I kinda think the Windows 10 image we use at work is alright. I work at a Forbes 500 company with a huuuge IT department, so I'm guessing they've done well at setting up group policies or something to make a de-cluttered experience for us. At least I never see any ads or Bing bullshit, and the Start menu works like I expect from ye old days. I could never make W10 work just as sleek at home, so I gave up and moved to Linux.

    That said, most developers here still use a local Linux VM for actual developing lol.

    [–] wander1236@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 month ago

    It's true. Add scrolling of non-focused windows and it's unbeatable.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Has there ever been a good version of Windows? Old versions were functional but terribly insecure and newer versions are reasonably secure but cloud connected ad platforms.

    Windows 10 is probably the middle ground although the newer versions come with the same anti features Windows 11 has

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Good question. I will say W7 because W10 necessitated an SSD to stay performant, so bloat and bullshit got rolled into W10

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    LTSC has almost the same performance as Win7... almost. It is runnable on a regular spinning drive.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)
    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Long Term Support Channel. It's Windows 10/11, but without all of the app crap. It's frozen in time to when it was released, just takes security updates, no feature updates. Same as any Windows before 10.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    The first release of 10 made my old laptop useless, so much delay it was not possible to perform real work. I switched that old thing to NixOS now it is like a new machine hosting web meetings, getting spreadsheet work done. All our work customers complained when the W10 upgrade happened by their IT departments, their engineering CAD suddenly took a performance hit. Just frustrating because tech is supposed to get better not worse.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Try LTSC 2019 (there are 2 other releases for 10, LTSC 2021 and LTSB 2016, back in 2016 it was named Long Term Support Branch). It's almost like Win7 regarding speed... almost.

    Not saying you should switch, but I dual boot because sometimes I need things that just don't run even in Wine, so if I have to use Windows, I use LTSC. A lot less intrusive, doesn't have the bullshit apps that come with regular Pro and Home, and, on top of that, 2019 has a 10 year support cycle (they changed it to 5 with LTSC 2021). So, basically, I'm covered till 2029.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 month ago

    Good info, thanks

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I think Windows 10 has nailed it UI/UX-wise.

    Too bad they enshittified it into oblivion.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    Except for the start menu and right click menu, yeah, I'd agree. Luckily, you can bring both back if you wanted to.

    [–] Allero@lemmy.today 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    I actually prefer the start menu of Windows 10 and appreciate KDE going a similar way on Linux

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 month ago

    Meeh, each to his own 🤷.

    [–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)
    [–] Ziglin@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

    Thats the version I've seen people experience the most issues with relative to the time they've used it.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 month ago

    That's because MS didn't invest time and money in it after 10 came out. A lot of bugs went unfixed. But, if you fix the start menu and removed all the apps, that thing was unbeatable regarding speed. It was fairly faster than 7, even on a spinning drive.

    Best MS OS regarding speed. If they fixed the bugs, it would have been even better than 7 or 10.