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[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter if he did it or not, honestly. If the state can't be 10000% certain the person they are about to murder is guilty of a heinous crime then it shouldn't be possible to fucking murder them.

This isnt about innocence. This is about the state denying this Black Muslim man due process and constitutional protections.

And on that note, its impossible to prove guilt in these cases, which is why the death penalty needs to be abolished. Are you comfortable with the idea of bring executed for a crime because you were in the wrong place at the wrong time? Because I'm sure fucking not.

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Maybe you should have read my whole statement before writing this wall of text?

[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm agreeing with your conclusion but not with your reasoning.

You reason that since it looks like he might be innocent, he shouldn't have been executed. Extrapolating from this yields that you also believe that if you felt he was definitely guilty, he should have been executed.

I'm saying that because this uncertainty exists at all as a concept the death penalty should be abolished. Its impossible to prove someone's guilt 100% in these cases, therefore the death penalty is immoral. Not just in this case but in every case.

[–] menemen@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I am just arguing about his case within the local law. Not about the sanity of the local within moral boundaries. So we two are having two different arguments here.

[–] Cube6392@beehaw.org 2 points 1 day ago

they're agreeing with you and taking it further, i'm pretty sure