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Politicians. Don't get me wrong, we do need them, but I strongly oppose the existance of people who never did anything else.
I believe we'd be better off with a new set of randomly chosen citizen every so often. Kinda like jury duty.
The process of choosing government officials at random is called sortition. It's certainly not the worst method.
Its called Sortition and I agree
Oh hell no. You know how braindead most people are at something relatively simple like driving a car, managing finances, or logical decision making? And then you want to roll the dice and let potentially 'the average' citizen to partake in government? This also means you have to be fine with the dumbest motherfucker you have ever come across, making policy decisions.
Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell naw. Fuck, we have some dense pieces of shit in govt/politics here in the states, but I know that we can do way, way, way fucking worse. Hell. No.
Well maybe braindead is still better than professional selfish corrupt assholes bending the system towards them across many decades.
The random dumb people would still be bribed.
We had one guy (Ricky Muir) in Aus who kind of got in accidentally, due to a weird quirk of the voting system that has since been fixed. He was an uneducated bogan, who was mostly just interested in hotted up cars. But he actually took the position seriously and reached out to experts for advice on topics he didn't know much about. I didn't agree with his take on a few things (from memory, this was a decade or so ago, I'm an anti-car lefty), but he honestly seemed like he was doing a pretty good job. Way better than 90% of the rest of the more career politicians.
Most people aren't that dumb, given the resources...
But at least wouldn't have decades to build up their networks.... But those may grow up regardless... Eh, no easy solutions.
If you cannot trust in a randomly selected group of people making good decisions, can you trust in any kind of democracy? I, for one, prefer 'dumb' people being directly involved instead of having a lying contest every so often to see which actively evil person can get the most 'dumb' people behind him.
While I can't argue with your point, it does at least require a small amount of effort to get elected, vs just picking names out of a hat or whatever.