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[–] anarcho_blinkenist@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I’d rather be dead

hey cool, then you can request the judge for the death penalty instead of life (people have done that before). But you don't get to make that decision for other people. And to do it over your tax money? (which by the way, is a fraction that your employer steals from the value you produce for them every day)? it's a misanthropic and myopic selfish callousness; whether or not you have struggled it is a sign of insularity to ascribe your experiences to others and how it "should be", and to do it in such a transactional way is even more disturbing.

I’d like to know how much you can cope with...

unclench your jaw and breathe friend, this is unreasonable

[–] Mango@lemmy.world -5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I can see that you haven't been through pain and helplessness at the whim of government, and that's how you think death is worse. Looks like you also believe they give us options and rights the way they tell you in school.

[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There are fates worse than death, you're right. But I think you would be one of the few who would prefer it to prison as it currently exists. But I think a sub point you have made is that prison is tantamount to torture, and I in some ways agree with that, which is why I say that non-rehabilitory prisons are unethical. It's also the model in the entire US.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] june@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Yes, I agree. Particularly when it isn't just rehabilitative and is punitive.

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

You completely ignored the most important part to continue harping on your personal qualms.

hey cool, then you can request the judge for the death penalty instead of life (people have done that before). But you don't get to make that decision for other people.

That is a perfectly reasonable compromise. I too feel that life imprisonment is worse than death, but most people being wrongfully executed do not. You can acknowledge the superior solution then continue on your personal experience.

I can see that you haven't been through pain and helplessness at the whim of government, and that's how you think death is worse.

Not to diminish your experience, but Marcellus Williams went through far, far more than you have. He disagreed. So since you haven’t been through pain and helplessness at the whim of government as he had, is your opinion worth nothing next to his?

Of course not. Everyone can have an opinion on the death sentence. I’m sorry for what happened to you, but it doesn’t automatically make you right.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I directly addressed that first point, so I'm gonna leave that one alone. You also think it's like they tell you in school and news.

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Where? I reread this thread and all I see is the same complaining about your personal situation. You only replied one time to that comment, and there was no attempt at justifying anything.

It seems like you suffered significant trauma and it’s affected your worldview heavily. You saw a story about someone being executed despite evidence of their innocence and came in here not to suggest a better path but to say death > imprisonment and keep bringing up your situation. And yeah, that genuinely sucks and we all wish it didn’t happen. But your contribution here is based on your feeling of misery and helplessness which isn’t useful because the man who actually was executed didn’t want it.

[–] Mango@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The exact comment you replied to. The courts don't operate how they say they do. They don't give you choices. Your defense doesn't matter. The stuff in this news post is just to keep you all busy. You don't know because you see what you're shown.

If you think someone is bad enough to kill, you should kill them yourself and don't drag it out.

[–] thrawn@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I can see that you haven't been through pain and helplessness at the whim of government, and that's how you think death is worse. Looks like you also believe they give us options and rights the way they tell you in school.

This? This says nothing about the proposed solution— which should satisfy you— or policy as a whole. Just personal gripes.

If you think someone is bad enough to kill, you should kill them yourself and don't drag it out.

That’s exactly what they did to Marcellus Williams.

Let me guess the next comment: bleak worldview, we only know what school told us, personal gripe.