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[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago) (1 children)

I cannot know with 100% certainty that someone hasn't planted false evidence on my phone, so I absolutely have reason turn my phone off before surrendering it (if I'm forced to surrender it).

If cops are certain I've committed a crime, why do they need to rely on methods outside the law (edit: I mean outside of legally compelling me via a warrant or similar) to get me? No, I'm never going to consent to any sort of search without a warrant. If you think I have something to hide, why are you afraid to get a warrant?

[–] Dariusmiles2123@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

That’s the thing, often you don’t know if someone has committed a crime and looking into their phone can also prove that they’re not guilty.

I ain’t talking about any method outside of the law. Willingly cooperating isn’t illegal. Nothing forces you to be friendly with your neighbors, but being friendly with your neighbor isn’t illegal.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 23 minutes ago* (last edited 22 minutes ago)

Sorry, by "outside of the law" I meant apart from legally compelling someone. The word choice made it sound like I meant illegal methods. I meant volunteering information. I don't think people should ever do it. I've edited that in for clarity.

It's my personal opinion that the police should not even be allowed to request voluntary searches, but that's a different topic and one I recognize as more extremist. It's just too easy for requests to sound like demands in a society with manners. Phrases like "Would you please do X?" are often used for both optional things and required things because "Do X" sounds rude to people.