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"The brief due Thursday (9/26) – which is expected to exceed 200 pages, including exhibits, and is meant to convince courts Trump should be prosecuted for alleged obstruction and conspiracy criminal activity — is a rare avenue for evidence to be aired in court before a trial.

Chutkan of the DC District Court, in a six-page opinion, said she would allow such an outsized briefing because the Supreme Court, in its recent decision to give Trump’s actions while president immunity from prosecution, has directed her as the trial judge to look closely at facts in the case to decide if some allegations could move forward to trial."

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[–] EmpireInDecay@lemmy.ml -3 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Everybody knows that this will go absolutely nowhere despite what everyone wants to think. Trump is in the club, and the duopoly will never charge one of their own.

[–] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

He was found guilty of 37 felonies. Pretty hard to keep the "it's a conspiracy they'll never find him guilty" point when "they" (the justice system) already did.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago

Yeah but I sold myself on both sides being the same side and I've been pushing it so hard for so long that I'm absolutely married to the idea and no amount of evidence will convince me otherwise.

[–] Backlog3231@reddthat.com 2 points 3 days ago

And he has faced consequences for those felony convictions, right?

...Right?

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (2 children)

This is not a both sides moment.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 6 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When you've convinced yourself of "muh both sides" everything that happens just further confirms it. Like if Trump were to end up behind bars. . .do you think this poster would all of a sudden realize that both sides are not the same? Nope. They would just convince themselves that Trump was actually an outsider. . .and then probably pretend that they maintained this position the whole time.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Exactly. What they are really saying is that neither party particularly addresses the needs that THEY personally care for. They can't see how one is toxic towards minorities while the other offers lukewarm support, as just one example.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Neither side is implementing state capitalism with hundreds of billionaires, so of course lemmy.ml finds them both equally distasteful.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Trump has spent his entire life trying to get into "the club". The specific "club" he was trying to get into was the Hollywood one for many years. The Apprentice got him close, but the "reality TV" club isn't quite the same as the "Hollywood club". Luckily, for Trump, it was enough to get him into the political club. I'm still not quite sure how, but it was. How it got him into the presidential club is even further baffling, but he did that too. Don't get me wrong, I understand how he got elected. But I don't understand how he survived the primaries. (I mean I do, but I'm just sad about it.)

But Trump, assuming he loses the upcoming election, is on his way out.

You're probably right that he'll never be in jail. He'll never serve a day in prison. But he'll be in court. He'll be in court until the day he dies. It's not perfect. It's not what he deserves. But it's what'll happen, and I'll take that.

[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There was an article around here a few days ago about the creation of the Apprentice. And it basically all came from that. Without that show trump likely would have disappeared forgotten to history or lost to Russian debtors. This all started there with those producers.

[–] MimicJar@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

I'm guessing https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/14/business/donald-trump-apprentice.html

and overall I agree.

I've never watched The Apprentice. Not because I'm "too cool" for it or anything. I remember watching the first season of two of Survivor. It was a fun enough show, but eventually I just got bored of it. I know I'm somewhat in the minority as reality TV really took off. Tons of reality TV exists today for a wide variety of shows and there are tons of success.

However I look at many of the folks (older adults) who are Trump supporters now and I'm confident they got their start watching him on The Apprentice.

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

And those are people who should be prosecuted, and they won't be, because they're in the club.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 3 points 3 days ago

Wait, are you arguing that the people who put Trump on a reality are only avoiding criminal prosecution because they are in some club?