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    [–] wormer@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

    Yea like the default is smart? How is it supposed to know if that's critical or not at that point? The alternative is for it to silently fail and wait for something else to break instead of failing gracefully? I feel like I'm growing more and more petty and matching the language of systemd haters but like just think about it for a few minutes????

    [–] nickwitha_k@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

    the default is smart

    Looking at the systems that are supported, it makes the greatest sense to have the safest failure mode as default. If fault tolerance is available, that can be handled in the entry but, it makes sense but to assume. Having that capability built into the default adds more complexity and reduces support for systems that are not tolerant of a missing mount.

    [–] wormer@lemmy.ml 3 points 1 month ago

    Sorry if it looked otherwise, I was agreeing to BCsven. I agree with you

    [–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 month ago

    The system failed for no good reason, failing is exactly what it should never ever do. If it had just continued, everything would have been fine.

    [–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

    Edit: just saw your other comment, so this may not apply to you now....Not that the default is smart, but the default has been set to fail a boot if parts are missing. Imagine a rocket launch system check, is temperature system online, no, fail and abort. While as users -- for convenience--we want the system to boot even though a drive went offline, that may not be best default for induatrial applications. Or where another system relylies on first one to be up and coherent. So we have to use the nofail option, to contine the boot on missing drive.