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Compared to FDR, Democrats have moved left on health care (Medicare, ACA), gay rights (RFMA), race (VRA, Civil Rights Act), social welfare (Medicaid, SCHIP), women's rights (Civil Rights Act, Lily Ledbetter), environment (IRA), drugs (multiple statewide decriminalization laws) ...
Are you not paying attention? How many people with Medicare and insurance can actually afford healthcare? Vra? Voting rights? How's that going? Civil rights? How is that going? How many are incarcerated for nothing and next to nothing and performing slave labor? How many were wrongfully executed? Environment? Yeah, how's that going? Statewide drug decrim and federal raids or businesses can't bank. Women's rights? 🤣 Please. How about human rights? Gaza. How about hungry kids in school? Working class living in cars, sleeping rough. Please.
Eta zero irony that you're arguing any of this, let alone women's rights, in a thread about a woman who died because she couldn't get reproductive care. Because doctors, not politicians. Sure. 😒
That's a long list of problems that FDR didn't put any effort into solving, at all.
Congratulations. He started with nothing. We started with a LOT.
If you support everything FDR did, but nothing more, then by definition you are neither to the left nor the right of FDR.
If you support everything FDR did, except you also support the tiniest bit of health care reform, then by definition you are to the left of FDR.
Yeah. Thanks for addressing my points on how much we didn't gain and how much we've lost.
Believe it or not, there is another political party in the US. They are supported by half the country and are successfully advancing their agenda, in part because people like you don't put any effort into stopping them.
I'm doing my part.
Unless you vote for Democrats, you really aren't.
That's what they've been telling me since Nixon, Dems keep moving right.
No, they aren't.
If you're old enough to remember Nixon then you're old enough to remember Phil Gramm, Zell Miller, and Sam Nunn. All of them Democrats who were more conservative than any Democrat today.
More recently, Lieberman, Manchin, and Sinema all left the party. Every time a conservative Democrat leaves, the party center of gravity moves left.
Right. That's why people today can afford a mortgage, vehicle, kids, higher education for them, health care and decent food, like they could then. How dare I believe my lying eyes.
Your eyes will tell you that Republicans successfully fought all those things, yet you refuse to believe them.
Did Dems codify Roe in 50 years? Keep tuition affordable? Chemicals out of food? Fund the EPA? Correct the climate? Crack down on big industry polluters? Give meaningful punishment for price gouging? Meaningfully address health (ACA means fa if people are still dying from preventable causes)? Keep carcinogens out of our food and water supply? Our air? Shore up voting? Reign in big banks? Did they address over criminalization? Get rid of prison slavery? Wage slavery? Stop couping other countries? Show up unions? Hire more air traffic controllers? Stop supporting genocide? The list is interminable. You can have the last word. You can keep people blind. I won't.
If you've really old enough to remember Nixon, then you should know that Democratic administrations are only able to accomplish one major legislative initiative, and sometimes not even that.
If you expect Democrats to make major progress on multiple problems at once, then you simply don't understand how US politics work. The system is not meant to deliver rapid progress at the national level. That's why many of the things on your list are addressed at the state level instead.
Unfortunately, not nothing for Clinton. His major initiative was NAFTA and he deserves all the criticism he's gotten for it.
Otherwise, I don't disagree with you.
NAFTA negotiations began in 1988, during Bush Sr's term. Clinton only signed it, as it was a mostly complete agreement by the time he took office. Hell, the idea for NAFTA was literally a part of Reagan's '80 presidential campaign.
Fair enough