I use Teams and Jira, and I can't even imagine the amount of wasted time when I click anything in either of them and nothing happens for a good while, just waiting around.

[–] KellysNokia@lemmy.world 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you press F12 and look at the network calls you can see the insane amount of analytics they are sending for every twitch of the mouse

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Why? What do these do?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 25 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Jira is a masterpiece compared to the dumpster fire that is Teams.

[–] toddestan@lemm.ee 17 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Maybe the old, discontinued on-premise version. The cloud version of JIRA is a huge step back.

With that said, Teams is not a good product either.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Teams is the worst product Microsoft has released since IE.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Have you heard of windows millennium?

[–] Colonel_Panic_@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

We do not speak of that one. It was a dark time, a chaotic time. Do not utter that name so casually. Many know not of which we speak. May their souls never experience the curse of that knowledge.

[–] the_artic_one@programming.dev 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

There's still Jira Data Center but nobody wants to pay extra for it so instead we have to deal the the garbage that is Cloud.

[–] filcuk@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I beg to differ.

I've not had a real issue with teams since the early 'new teams' release. Nor have I had issues prior.

Using Jira is actually something I dread every day.
Knowing I have to go through the list of tasks and projects, where each click means another few seconds of staring blankly at the screen as it loads.

In an age where I'm used to every interaction having a near instant reaction, using Jira feels like peeling potatoes with a butter knife.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Maybe you just don't have a reasonable comparison. We just switched from Slack and Zoom to Teams and it has significantly impacted our ability to collaborate and communicate. It's constantly dropping calls, video quality is awful, annotation is awful, the layout is wasteful with tons of wasted space, audio is terrible, there's no closed captioning visible while screen sharing, there are too many problems to list. It's the type of product I'd expect from a high school programming class, not a trillion dollar company.

[–] astropenguin5@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

As an outsider to a lot of such corporate things it sounds like they both suck a lot, just in different ways.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I never had any issues with Zoom or Slack. They do what they're supposed to do. Jira is fine too, but I'm not a PM, so I don't have to deal with anything other than the Kanban board.

Edit: I guess it's relevant that I'm on a MacBook Pro, and not a Windows machine.

[–] bleistift2@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

constantly dropping calls, video quality is awful […], audio is terrible,

I have none of these issues with Teams. Maybe your internet connection sucks?

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I have gigabit internet. It doesn't suck for anything except Teams.

[–] CluckN@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

Don’t worry teamsters we added 6 new ticket statuses so they can get auto-sorted straight to the abyss.