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“Jill Stein is a useful idiot for Russia. After parroting Kremlin talking points and being propped up by bad actors in 2016 she’s at it again,” DNC spokesman Matt Corridoni said in a statement to The Bulwark. “Jill Stein won’t become president, but her spoiler candidacy—that both the GOP and Putin have previously shown interest in—can help decide who wins. A vote for Stein is a vote for Trump.”

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[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 119 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Probably doesn't help that Stein refuses to call Putin a war criminal.

https://www.newsweek.com/jill-stein-vladimir-putin-war-criminal-1954965

"Hasan later asked Stein why she had labeled Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu a war criminal, but not Putin.

"Well, as John F. Kennedy said, we must not negotiate out of fear and we must not fear to negotiate," she replied. "So, if you want to be an effective world leader, you don't start by name-calling and hurling epithets."

"So, how will President Stein negotiate with Israel then if you've called Netanyahu a war criminal?" Hasan asked in response.

"Well, because he very clearly is a war criminal," Stein said, prompting Hasan to ask: "So Putin clearly isn't a war criminal?"

"Well, we don't have a decision—put it this way—by the International Criminal Court," Stein said.

The ICC has issued an arrest warrant for Putin, alleging that he is responsible for war crimes. No such warrant has been issued for Netanyahu, whose war on Gaza has killed more than 40,000 Palestinians. However, the chief prosecutor of the ICC has applied for an arrest warrant for the Israeli prime minister.

"There's an arrest warrant for Putin and there isn't an arrest warrant for Netanyahu, so why is Putin not a war criminal, but Netanyahu is?" Hasan asked.

"Yeah. Well, let me say this. We are sponsoring that war. We are sponsoring Netanyahu," Stein responded. "He is our dog in this fight. That is why we have a responsibility to pull him back.""

[–] neatchee@lemmy.world 20 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (4 children)

Fwiw after that whole thing made news she released a press statement that did call him a war criminal

EDIT: citation - https://www.jillstein2024.com/war_criminals_and_diplomacy

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 57 points 3 months ago (1 children)

"Hey, Vladimir? I need to actually call you a war criminal now, yeah, I almost got found out. Thanks! I knew you'd understand!"

LOL! That makes it sound like she's a Russian plant or Russian asset rather than a useful idiot - the latter wouldn't need to report back like that.

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 48 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And anyone paying attention realizes she only put out the statement after she got called on it and had time to think about what it meant that she was actively avoiding doing so. This is 100% optics and nothing more.

Her statement is about as believable as a kid with crumbs on their face saying they didn't eat all the cookies....

[–] Tyfud@lemmy.world 18 points 3 months ago

Unfortunately, third party candidates are made exactly for people not paying attention

[–] sarcasticsunrise@lemmy.world 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Way too little, way too late. Medhi cut her up so surgically I don't even know if she's gonna have the stones to resurface four years from now. Hopefully being a Russian asset pays well, Shill is done

[–] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Aha, you fool! You think she feels shame?

[–] abff08f4813c@j4vcdedmiokf56h3ho4t62mlku.srv.us 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Makes sense, but citation requested.

That being said, she's so ill informed that she didn't know how many House Reps there are. Of course she wouldn't have known about the ICC arrest warrant for Putin until a reporter told her so she could look it up.

If anything, if he's "our dog" as she says, doesn't that mean he's just a tool rather than a war criminal?

Why is this interesting? Here's another point of view, one that's a bit more consistent. Israel, while not being a member of NATO, has a special relationship with it and is basically a major defacto ally.

If you are pro-(Putin's) Russia and believe NATO's actions are war crimes, then it's no leap at all to consider Israel in the same group. In fact, hurting Israel (the country) then benefits Russia as it weakens NATO (by weakening a close ally of theirs).