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[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago (5 children)

Not sure I'd really call this an "enlightened time."

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 100 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Relative to the 1940s, it is.

[–] thetreesaysbark@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 months ago

To be fair, they said 'a more enlightened time', like how my face can be more handsome without me actually being handsome. :|

[–] norimee@lemmy.world 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Times did change though, quite a lot even.

I'm not LGBTQ+ so I can only say what I know from other people. But when you speak to older gay people, boomer gays and such, they tell you awfuly heartbreaking stories.

Of course gays and other LGBTQ+ folx still get hated on and discriminated and there is still a long, long way to go.

But that doesn't change, that nowadays you can publish loveletters of two men, without destroying the lives of each person involved. Back then, the letter writers would have probably ended up in prison and everyone else with knowledge of them or any kind of involvement would loose their jobs and carrers and would have been shunned. Someone responsible publishing them or making a film about them, would probably go to prison too.

So yes. I'd call this a more enlightened time compared to Europe in the 1930'/40's.

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 months ago

The 1920's were starting to become enlightened... which only fueled the facists hate. Were currently in that same situation, but this time we must let the facists know they are weak and wont hurt anymore people this time.

[–] Rolando@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago

Yeah, not the same thing and a couple decades earlier but Wilde's "De Profundis" is a useful contrast.

[–] BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I was thinking the same: Made into a book that will be thrown onto a burning pile of woke books if trump wins.

[–] Tylerdurdon@lemmy.world 2 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Except it's still a kind of dumb take honestly. Your country has a minority of hateful fucks in positions of power, that can rile up the 30% minority of other hateful fucks that vote them in.

Let alone that, ya know, the rest of the world also exists and is, for the most part, headed in the right direction.

[–] yetAnotherUser@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Wait in what world are you living where countries are heading in the right direction? Fascism, ultranationalism and the far right are thriving with no indication of slowing down.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 months ago

Victoria, Australia. Thinking of changing my birth cert to puppygirl, because legally I can ☺️

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 13 points 2 months ago

10% more enlightened