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cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/42676060

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[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 22 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I don't see what this has to do with the fact that China utilises slave labour from a religious minority group they are currently genociding to aid in their construction and manufacturing sector.

To my knowledge, you go to prison in the US when you commit a crime, as opposed to a labour camp where you are sterilised then made to build Fords under threat of death.

[–] 0x0@programming.dev 9 points 2 days ago

you go to prison in the US when you commit a crime

Gotta keep'em prisons profitable...

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

America also uses slave prison labour

And America has more incarcerated people than China, despite China having way more people.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Ok, putting aside for a moment China's totally honest and not at all fudged number of incarcerated people...

The US allowing prison labour is something I'm disgusted by.

But it's still a far cry from abducting people based on their religion, sometimes sterilising them so they can't have kids, threatening them with their life, threatening their family, and forcing them to work in factories or in construction, then using that slave labour to undercut and kill foreign competition.

Don't try to twist this into a "you're complaining about China therefore you think the US is great". I'm saying China is far worse. Because they are, and only a complete muppet would think otherwise.

Maybe you're ok with what China does (slavery and genocide), but I am not.

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Everything you accuse China of, the US is guilty of the same or worse. How many people in the US are in jail for the crime of being black?

I never said China is great. They are horrible. The US is just worse.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I don't want what you're smoking.

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 0 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

this is how most americans react to being told that they are an authoritarian country.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 0 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Not American. You'd think my spelling would've made that obvious.

And lmao at thinking China isn't hugely more authoritarian.

Stop with this tankie nonsense. Genocide is bad. Stop defending it.

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I never said it wasn't. But America has killed more people in my liftime than China has. In the evil overlords okympics, America wins the gold medal.

[–] TheGrandNagus@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

You're here throughout the entire comment section pretending the US is worse (fucking LMAO), and minimising the genocide and slavery that China is engaged in.

Enjoy your car built by slaves from a community being genocided I guess.

I bet if you were around in the 40s you'd be clamouring on getting your hands on a vehicle built in Nazi labour camps.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

No...just no. China's prison population is not counted correctly, just from their forced reeducation camps, its estimated they have 1-2 million people in them. The usa has around 1.2 million in prison. So no china does not have less prisoners. I don't know where this bullshit lie showed up but it's been repeated way to long.

Does the USA have a problem with incarcerating people for non-violent offenses, hell yes, but that's a whole different argument.

[–] erenkoylu@lemmy.ml -2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

China is also much larger than US. Even with your fantasy numbers US has more prisoners per capita.

America is a authoritarian nation. You guys just killed a guy and several bystanders over a 2.9 dollar fare ffs.

[–] SupraMario@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Lol @ fantasy numbers...only a tankie would think that.

Yea we have problems, but acting like china is better is hilariously wrong.