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10-year-old Fatima Jaafar Abdullah was killed in pager explosions in Lebanon.

Israel murders another kid again.

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[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (5 children)

How would this message trigger the explosive?

Taking control of a shipping container, opening all of pagers and adding some explosives is obvious and not too hard for people with that power.

Replacing all the chips, or hacking their firmware, is different, and is what I'm asking about.

Most bombs that use a phone as the trigger use the speaker for example. But in these pagers that would have already set off loads.

[–] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Not a ton is known, by from what I understand the explosives were part of a secondary board added to the pagers, which would also have the ability to listen for a separate signal or look for a specific one the pager received.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Thanks. This is more along the lines of what I'm interested in.

A custom made board for this increases the difficulty and size of this operation by a lot.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Well, they had to make room inside for the high explosive charge, so it was never going to be a slight change to an off-the-shelf product. There's not typically a lot of dead space in a pager.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I saw some videos about how strong C4 actually is. A single capacitor could in theory hold the payload we have seen. That would also hide it if the device were opened.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Is there data on what the payload actually was?

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

I don't think there is at the moment.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This wasn't an interception. The devices were designed and manufactured by Israeli intelligence. They just licensed out brandnames through shell companies, and convinced Hezbollah to buy models from their agents by conventional spycraft.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 months ago

Yes, more evidence comes to light.

I believe they triggers a cell in the LIPO batteries to overheat causing the explosive material to explode.

[–] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago (1 children)

May have been done at the source of the manufacturing.

[–] x00za@lemmy.dbzer0.com -1 points 2 months ago

Not sure that falls under "intercepted"

[–] jonwyattphillips@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 months ago

Replace battery with battery/explosive/receiver combo.