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[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 60 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Good. They should focus on their browser. No one wanted their side projects. It was scope creep and took away resources from their main product offering. Sounds like the right move.

[–] asdfasdfasdf@lemmy.world 29 points 1 month ago (2 children)

But then how do you make money with a browser if you aren't getting Google money and don't spy on users?

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 7 points 1 month ago

I have no idea :-)

[–] 1984@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Kagi is making some money by providing value that Google can't. I'm not sure if it would be enough for mozilla, but Kagi is making a profit now.

Sadly, both of these companies still depend on Google.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago

Kagi is no better than Mozilla though. They even bought a T-shirt factory lol https://d-shoot.net/kagi.html

[–] Monument@lemmy.sdf.org 25 points 1 month ago (1 children)

My understanding is that they are focusing on adding in “AI” features in a big way, and that’s why they cut development on the other work. 🫤

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Fuck AI too. No one wants that garbage. I hate that everything has a chatbot now

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

There's already AI in firefox: The integrated translator. From what I've heard they're looking into ingesting browsing history locally so that you can find stuff again easier.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

What do you mean ingesting browsing history locally? For AI? I don't want that. But I'd interested in your opinion and explanation though!

[–] barsoap@lemm.ee 13 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

So you can find things by "that spicy chicken recipe" instead of having to remember what it was actually called, or slog through a gazillion chicken recipes in your history when you realise that "spicy" was nowhere in the name. Basically stemming/thesaurus search on steroids.

It's quite likely to be opt-in as I imagine ingesting the sites you're looking at is a significant computational load. The translators are also opt-in, there's enough stuff inbuilt to detect languages but not to translate, you have to download those models first. And they're quite good btw.

Another thing I could see them offering is stuff like tl;dr bot. It's probably not for everyone, but I definitely can see that it can be a useful feature for many people.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

If it's all local and no telemetry is sent to mozilla or 3rd parties, then I'd potentially be interested in it.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 0 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Think like Microsoft recall for your browser history. Yeah that sounds awful, it's not surprising why people would not want it. Just goes to show that Mozilla is dumb and blind like all other companies.

[–] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 1 points 1 month ago

Stuff like Recall is okay if it’s local and opt-in

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 1 points 1 month ago

Yea.....sounds terrible. I don't even save my browser history normally.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

I hope thats what they will do but i very much doubt it. Looking at her track record makes me think that she has no good intemtions with mozilla.

[–] FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org 7 points 1 month ago

Yea probably not lol.

[–] Draconic_NEO@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

They're going to continue chasing the AI trend right up until the bubble bursts. At which point they'll continue wasting money on the next big trend, assuming that the bubble bursting doesn't kill Mozilla in the process.

[–] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 0 points 1 month ago

I wanted some of their side projects. Their web-things iot automation controller (and related standards) was pretty sweet. Until they spun it off into its own company without any staff.