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I cringe every time I hear another guy refer to women like this

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[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 20 points 2 months ago (3 children)

There's vanishingly few places where the use of the word female is correct. The test is generally if the word male would also be correct and not weird there. If the speaker is talking about men and females then we have a problem.

There's also a couple exceptions where the misogynist language got assimilated but it's so normal that you can't tell just by their use of the word. Like the military talking about female soldiers. For example there is a need to distinguish between male and female body armor. But also they talk about the needs of soldiers and female soldiers without a hint of disparagement. It's just how they make it clear there needs to be a second latrine ditch and the camp shower needs to have at least canvas walls. The only fix most of us can see for this is persistently referring to men as male soldiers too because women soldiers sounds weird and doesn't solve the problem of default soldier vs qualifier soldier.

[–] Techranger@infosec.pub 15 points 2 months ago

Exactly. The use of "female" is clinical in that context. It's meant to be sterile, emotionless, professional, and adequately descriptive.

[–] AdrianTheFrog@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

I would say as a general rule its fine when you aren't talking about people, ex: female body armor, female frog, etc

[–] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

vanishingly few

As it should be. Equality is crucial, and women's rights generally pave the way for minorities. Uff. I hate that this is usually how it is, but look how far women have come since the turn of the 20th century - hell, even the 21st century

[–] AgentOrangesicle@lemmy.world 1 points 2 months ago

Imagine getting fitted with body armor suited for a different body type and having to just deal with it when rounds are coming at you. Yeah, we need a new language to make sense of non-cis people in the military, but we shouldn't sacrifice their lives because of it.

I bet you're in the same boat. In the interim, we use the language necessary to keep us alive and respect everyone in our crew in the process. But yeah, guys calling girls "females" outside of that is weird and definitely a red card for dating. That should be the brunt of our attention.