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If you don't mind such things one bit, would you mind sharing with all of here all of the following:
And many other things, too. Somehow I doubt you'd ever do that, but you're fine trusting this kind of data to be handed away to many corporations for absolutely no benefit on your end. They'll just sell it for cash money, only to be bought by con-artsists to try and scam you out of something later.
I mean being a contempt consumer is one thing, but defending some entities hoarding more data about you than your entire family knows is just delusional. Especially given the fact that you are most likely more careful with your data in other circumstances, like talking to strangers or using the Internet for at least some things, but then you defend careless and irresponsible handling of your data when it comes to what, mobile apps?
You should really learn more on the topic.
Let's not forget: everything you say. Phones have microphones.
And cameras.
How many people are dumbfounded or completely unaware when amazon or facebook show you an ad about something you were talking about earlier....
This is where you lose people. It’s been proven time and time again that the mics on your phones aren’t transmitting things back without you knowing about it.
Facebook isn’t always listening in on your conversations. They don’t need to. It’s useless data.
Voice isn’t how they figure out what you like and are probably talking about at any given moment with other people.
Here’s a short podcast episode that gets the point across: https://gimletmedia.com/amp/shows/reply-all/z3hlwr
You could literally physically destroy the microphone of your phone, and you’ll still get ads served up like “they are listening to you”
Not entirely true. Clearly they aren't listening all the time, but I doubt they're collecting that voice data for no reason.
You act like it's impossible which really comes off as desperation for it to be true. Definitely not impossible
If they could access those indiscriminately you could guaran-fucking-tee people would start taking it seriously.
/tinfoil hat
That's why they don't list those things in your app permissions unless it expressly "uses it"
Zuckerborg probably watches people pee all the time.
It’s not imposibile, it’s unlikely, and would be noticeable.
Dunno how app permissions prove that they are always listening when those permissions are required to access the mic at any point in time, including when you’re using the app and invoke it yourself.
When you build the back door you can keep your own key
Show me evidence that Apple has a backdoor for companies like Meta, that circumvent their normal iOS functionality.
Well I was curious so I did a little search
Here's an article
https://thehackernews.com/2014/07/undocumented-ios-features-left-hidden.html
None of this is what I was looking for.
Meta is plugging in USBs or connecting to people’s accounts en masse to get into people’s encrypted backups? I think not.
People keep claiming Meta does this, does that when it comes to microphones. Where is the proof? I haven’t seen a SINGLE piece of evidence to show that Meta is listening to you at all times when you aren’t using the app. I only ever see people’s anecdotes of “it heard me talk about something cause it popped up later”.
If you were a faceless algorithm yhea I wouldn’t mind, I’m giving my address and information to plenty of companies I get services from. Those false equivalences are why people don’t take you seriously.
Are you seriously this delusional? There is no "faceless algorithm", they can pull your profile at any time and give it to the highest bidder.
Wait, you actually think they sell single profiles? Go buy some tinfoil, the lizard people may come for you with all that Google data
It's usually not a "Hey, we give you a profile for $2".
It's more like "Oh, you, political party XY want to show advertisment to 2000 people? No problem... We helped you filter the perfect people... There you go, 2000 low-educated, mid-20 users who were classified as easy to manipulate by our algorithms. Bonus: They are having a hard time now and are classified are 'probably depression' (lost children or parents or their home, ...), so they are even easier to target at the moment. We will show them your propaganda for just $xxxx "
That's how they make money.
The faceless algorithm stores the the data in a database. From this point on, people with faces can access them.
I am a software developer. If I'd create a faceless form that stores the data somewhere for me, would you enter them?
There are people behind algorithms. They don't exist for the sole purpose of gathering the data for the sake of it - the data is later accessed and processed by people.
And how is that different from giving any of information to me? I'm just trying to gather some statistics here, nothing more.
Is this why Zuckerberg went to trial and the EU is preventing apps and services whose sole purpose is to hoover up some data about you to become available in its domain?