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[–] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 27 points 4 days ago (14 children)

The Dems will preserve a political model that's at least malleable. 3rds will need to work together to push ranked choice more and more into voters' field of view.

Republicans will swan-dive into fascism, in which case 3rds (and everyone else) are fucked.

Dems aren't going to help 3rds directly, but any one who wants the possibility of a 3rd party victory later is committing political suicide by failing to vote blue as a means of buying time. Voting 3rd when that 3rd has no potential for victory is self-destructive.

[–] NauticalNoodle@lemmy.ml 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (9 children)

The Dems will preserve a political model that’s at least malleable.

Much like during covid when they gave preferential treatment to themselves while simultaneously working to remove the Green party from ballots.

-More to the point your comment runs contrary to reality and the very nature of the joke pointed out in the meme.

[–] Skyrmir@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The green party only exists because the GOP keeps giving them money. The only time anyone ever hears a damn word out of them, is when they're showing up to split the Dem vote for the GOP.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

You might want lay off the Blue MAGA conspiracies for a bit.

Commission certifies Jill Stein eligible to receive federal matching funds (2024)

Based on documents received on June 3, 2024, Jill Stein and Jill Stein for President 2024 (JSFP) fulfilled the agreement and certification requirements and contributions

To become eligible for matching funds, candidates must submit Candidate and Committee Agreements and Certifications as well as raise a threshold amount of $100,000 by collecting $5,000 in 20 different states in amounts no greater than $250 from any individual.

Also the entire Democratic party runs on AIPAC which is actually funded by Republicans. Dems reaching unprecedented levels of projection.

[–] mashbooq@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

When everything Democrats don't like is a Russian GOP state agent because someone drew some text on an image and they did zero fact checking, you know they've reached MAGA levels.

If any of these insane conspiracies were actually true the Green party would not even be allowed to run. The Democrats have done everything to try to concern troll the Greens off ballots in most "democratic" fashion.

[–] mashbooq@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (1 children)

They might label some people incorrectly as russian agents, but the reality is that there is a concerted effort by russia to undermine the US democracy, mostly directed at the Democratic Party, and making some mistakes doesn't make them delusional.

It's pretty hard to prosecute propaganda in the US due to the First Amendment, so it's not accurate to say that just because the Greens can run, they must not be russian agents.

The concern about the Greens is eminently logical: they are never going to win, so the best they can do is take votes from the Democrats, allowing the fascists to win. This is in fact what happened in the election of Polk, leading to the Mexican-American war and the theft of Texas from Mexico, which was then admitted as an additional slave state. Further, the Greens do little to nothing other than run in big national races, so it's not a leap to think they're deliberately running a spoiler campaign.

Finally, none of that has anything to do with the silly attempt to label Democrats as "Blue MAGA", since MAGA is a quasi-religious fascist personality cult, none of which can be credibly attributed to Democrats.

[–] Linkerbaan@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Top Democrats like Biden and Harris are bought and paid for by AIPAC. Which is funded by you guessed it: Republicans. And israel.

The reason it's called Blue MAGA is because Democrats are also Zionists.

Zionismis a religious fascist Death Cult. And the Democrat Zionist cult is currently complicit in Genocide and the denial of Genocide.

[–] mashbooq@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

AIPAC is funded by Israel, Republicans, and Democrats, so you can't draw any strong conclusions about party affiliation from involvement in AIPAC alone. Further, AIPAC isn't the only, or even the biggest, donor to Biden and Harris, so claiming they're "bought and paid for" strains credulity.

MAGA isn't solely characterized by Zionism, and not all Zionists are MAGA, so going from "Zionism" to "MAGA" is an unsubstantiated leap.

Finally, receiving donations from a death cult does not make one part of a death cult. Morally reprehensible? Yes.

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