this post was submitted on 13 Sep 2024
-19 points (39.8% liked)
Fediverse
28748 readers
29 users here now
A community to talk about the Fediverse and all it's related services using ActivityPub (Mastodon, Lemmy, KBin, etc).
If you wanted to get help with moderating your own community then head over to !moderators@lemmy.world!
Rules
- Posts must be on topic.
- Be respectful of others.
- Cite the sources used for graphs and other statistics.
- Follow the general Lemmy.world rules.
Learn more at these websites: Join The Fediverse Wiki, Fediverse.info, Wikipedia Page, The Federation Info (Stats), FediDB (Stats), Sub Rehab (Reddit Migration), Search Lemmy
founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
view the rest of the comments
Quantity is quality, if you have good filters in place.
I never understood people that argue something is bad by looking at the median case. The problem of Reddit, Twitter and Facebook is not due to the amount of people they have, and they were absolutely fine until they tried to exploit their userbases.
(Aside for @blaze@feddit.org: see what I mean about Fedi's anti-growth and reactionary culture? Our friend here is not an isolated case)
It's more against having celebrities and their followers coming here en masse, which I get.
I've still seen a few comments mentioning "organic grow" which seems indeed healthier
"oh, I want it to grow, I just don't it want to grow with people that I don't like"
You can dress it however you want, it's still elitist, reactionary and exclusive.
That's the example used by OP to make their point. Just from a technical perspective, how are instances supposed to handle 300k new users overnight?
To come back to your usual argument, do you expect those hundreds of thousands of new users to get a Communick subscription? Or to even support the hosting costs of the instances they would use?
They won't. Not at first. First we will get maybe 50k, LW will do their thing and try to gobble up the majority of users, alien.top can also help absorb part of this crowd and I could even finally convince some other admins to set up fediverser on their instances to help with the migration.
But the important thing is that this type of backing from the mainstream would mean free marketing.
All of those people, of course not. But I expect the increased user base and media attention to bring the following:
All of those things translate indirectly into more business opportunities, none of which need to sacrifice the ideals of the open social web.
In that scenario, let's say for some reason Taylor Swift really wants to give Lemmy a try for whatever reason.
Her advisors have a look around, see the userbase, and conclude it's not worth the hassle compared to the millions of people they can reach out on Twitter, Facebook and Reddit.
Taylor Swift's team doesn't even manage her own forum, why would they want to go through the hassle of setting up a Lemmy instance?
The scenario described by OP is "Taylor Swift posts about the Fediverse", but why would she care about it in the first place?
Pinging @scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech as they are a Taylor Swift expert. Scrubbles, do you have any opinion on this discussion?
I'm actually flattered that I have this... reputation on Lemmy lol.
Personally, I don't care if celebrities come and join, even Taylor. Honestly that's one of the reasons I'm okay with threads starting to federate, I see celebrities joining there and then we can sub from our instances. Best of both worlds imo.
Well, I've been following your work on your instance for a while, so I thought about you.
Thank you for your comment!
@rglullis@communick.news, one instance admin okay to federate with Threads!
It doesn't matter if it's a post of Taylor Swift or someone from /r/wallstreetbets convincing the mob to short RDDT and to move to Lemmy, we are talking about any random scenario that manages to get 300k people interested in Lemmy.
That scenario is the killing of the third party apps, and is still ongoing
Nah, there is no more concerted effort from the mods to get people out of Reddit. The mods that still wanted to take action were kicked out, the others that remained are too afraid to lose their "power mod" status or were appointed by Reddit itself to take charge.
it will take some other new event to take place for people to get mobilized again. Reddit won that battle.
Have the apps API access been officially restored?
Though, to be fair, we might see another influx the day the private API keys stop working, or Reddit isn't compatible with them anymore. I see a lot of people using those to still be able to access Reddit through their preferred app
No, they won't be and the majority of people didn't care. Which is kind of my point?
That will not happen. If they kill the API for good and do the same thing that happened at Twitter, all the bots from Reddit are going to disappear and it's going to cause a hit on Reddit traffic.
The number of people who cared enough about third-party apps is not enough to affect their bottom line, so as long as they managed to get (say, 80% of the Apollo/Sync/Infinity users into the official client is enough)
I'm not your buddy, guy!